Ken Burke Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Ok probably a little mean to our northern brethren, but here in the south….. I’m wondering if white clouds and gold fish are good pond mates for a 110 gal tank? Last year when I pulled all the mollies from my tub, I tossed in a couple small fan tail gold fish just to see what would happen. The plan was to sell them back to the lfs this spring. Welp, they made it through the winter, and even grew quite a bit. But my wife thinks we should just the fan tails. I can add a few more goldfish to round out the numbers, but the 2 I have are pretty shy and I think they could use a dither fish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griznatch Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 I'm one of the northern ones, probably be a month before I set up my tub. A lot probably depends on the size of your goldfish. Mine would eat the white clouds most likely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Burke Posted March 21, 2022 Author Share Posted March 21, 2022 Are there other option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT_ Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Last fall I gave a friend 20 white clouds for his gold fish pond. It's too early to see if they made it but I'll report back if we spot them. My hope is they're a lot faster than a gold fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atitagain Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 I’m setting up my first outdoor tub this year it’s a 110G as well. I’m hoping for a big bunch of white clouds at the end of the season. Good luck with the goldfish. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Burke Posted March 22, 2022 Author Share Posted March 22, 2022 On 3/21/2022 at 4:30 PM, Atitagain said: I’m setting up my first outdoor tub this year it’s a 110G as well. I’m hoping for a big bunch of white clouds at the end of the season. Good luck with the goldfish. Tons of fun. My first year I did plattys, I started late for down here and still had several hundred outta a 27 and a 44 gallon tub. Paid for the upgrade! I’m wondering if just adding a few more gold fish will help…. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PineSong Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 This will also be my first year with an outdoor tub @Atitagain and I also got the 110 stock tank 🙂 It's too soon for me to set it up now, but I think I will fill it around April 15 so the plants will have a head start. I've had a bucket of extra plant clippings stored on the back steps for several weeks now. It has frozen pretty solid a couple of times but amazingly the plants are still green after thawing out. I'm thinking I will start with that bucket of plants and the lilies I want to remove from my 20T, and just see what happens. I'm not sure yet what fish I will put in. I have gold white clouds and guppies and a million platy fry but the platies are all blue tux so they will hardly be visible in a black tank. I have fantasies of nice bright red/orange fireball platies or mollies or koi swordtails...but my QT is in use and I refuse to set up one more! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siett88 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) It's supposed to be 30s for the next week in Milwaukee and last frost is usually in May, so I usually wait til then. But I'm always ready! First year with a new 100 gal Rubbermaid I'll be putting the reed fencing around (idea from a video with Dean, why not steal from the best!). I'm going to throw a bunch of varieties of medaka in there and see what happens. Edited March 23, 2022 by Siett88 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streetwise Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Summer tubs are a great way to try out organic soil tanks if you have never run them before! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castiel Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 I'm really hoping to do a tub outside this summer, probably like a 35 gal. I just can't decide what I want to stock it with, expressly since I don't really have room for more tanks inside so I won't really be able to keep my lines in between seasons. I've been leaning towards guppies anyway just because they're so fun to breed in mutt colonies and I have a preexisting relationship with selling fish to my LFS and their wholesalers guppy quality has been lacking a bit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Burke Posted March 26, 2022 Author Share Posted March 26, 2022 On 3/23/2022 at 12:34 PM, Siett88 said: It's supposed to be 30s for the next week in Milwaukee and last frost is usually in May, so I usually wait til then. But I'm always ready! First year with a new 100 gal Rubbermaid I'll be putting the reed fencing around (idea from a video with Dean, why not steal from the best!). I'm going to throw a bunch of varieties of medaka in there and see what happens. Yeah, the tub is not the prettiest thing unless you dress it up. I went with brick….we’ll start dressing it up soon. Hanging ivys, some flowers in the front, caladiums behind. On 3/25/2022 at 11:43 AM, castiel said: I'm really hoping to do a tub outside this summer, probably like a 35 gal. I just can't decide what I want to stock it with, expressly since I don't really have room for more tanks inside so I won't really be able to keep my lines in between seasons. I've been leaning towards guppies anyway just because they're so fun to breed in mutt colonies and I have a preexisting relationship with selling fish to my LFS and their wholesalers guppy quality has been lacking a bit. That’s the trick, find what your lfs needs. Breed them! A 35 gal tote should work just fine for guppies. Or platys for that matter. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PineSong Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 I've ordered my tub fish 🙂 and I've recieved my floating plants and have them in my various tanks where I hope they will multiply while we are waiting for warm weather. I still have several items on my To Do List and some decisions to make for the tub pond. I do plan to run a sponge filter, and I may get a heater to extend the season in both directions. I hope it will be fun! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Burke Posted March 28, 2022 Author Share Posted March 28, 2022 On 3/27/2022 at 8:27 PM, PineSong said: I've ordered my tub fish 🙂 and I've recieved my floating plants and have them in my various tanks where I hope they will multiply while we are waiting for warm weather. I still have several items on my To Do List and some decisions to make for the tub pond. I do plan to run a sponge filter, and I may get a heater to extend the season in both directions. I hope it will be fun! It will be tons of fun! BTW: I don’t run filters in my tub, just an air stone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 I want to try tetras for the summer but I am afraid my weather is not stable enough, it can get 95 high and 45 low in the same day. I might just pick a ricefish or two and let them stay out year round. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzDaddy21 Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 On 3/26/2022 at 2:53 PM, Ken Burke said: I went with brick….we’ll start dressing it up soon. Wow that looks awesome, the tub idea is interesting, seems a lot of folks use outside tubs. Maybe someone could tell me the pros/cons of using tubs outside. Is a certain size needed? Is it possible to raise shrimp? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Burke Posted March 28, 2022 Author Share Posted March 28, 2022 @BuzzDaddy21 here is a great article to get you started. advantages great for breading very colorful fish fun easy/low maintenance ….. disadvantages summer doesn’t last all year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keddre Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 I have white clouds and 4" fancies in my 55 gallon and they are doing fine so far. The white clouds can dart away and my fancies can't fit them in their mouth yet. You're main two issues will be diet differences (Goldies want a little more plant matter) and harassment among the white clouds. The males will harass the heck out of females during spawning, so just something to think of 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT_ Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 On 3/28/2022 at 8:53 AM, Ken Burke said: disadvantages summer doesn’t last all year indeed. if I lived in FLA or somewhere similar I'd have 50 ponds/tubs all year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Burke Posted May 13, 2022 Author Share Posted May 13, 2022 So my swimming pool is up to 85 degrees. Figures I could share a few pics of my summer tub now show me your!🤪🤪 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guppysnail Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 That is phenomenal! Winters are too cold here so I summer tub vicariously through you folks 😁. What type is that gorgeous red plant? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Burke Posted May 13, 2022 Author Share Posted May 13, 2022 It’s a ti plant cutting. I was trying to get it to root, but it’s just withering away.. I’ll keep it there until it no longer looks good https://www.thespruce.com/ti-plant-profile-5074159@Guppysnail 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guppysnail Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Pull it out and put it in a tall glass of water. Wet your entire finger in apple cider vinegar with the mother (unfiltered) swish it in the glass let it sit for a few days. Return it to the pond. Works like a rooting hormone. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Burke Posted May 13, 2022 Author Share Posted May 13, 2022 Worth a try! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guppysnail Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 My grandmother taught me that. Snip the end so you have a fresh cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Burke Posted May 13, 2022 Author Share Posted May 13, 2022 Copy. Thanks grandma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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