Fish Folk Posted August 12, 2021 Author Share Posted August 12, 2021 Just a “Ram”bling video here. Looking over all Ram’s with MISC observations… 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbit Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Interesting… is it possible the parents are worn out from producing two broods? I know my honey male gets really tired if he’s guarding broods back to back. When I clear out his nesting area and his hormones go down, he spends a few days sleeping on the floor of the tank (scaring me half to death). Can you force rams to snap out of breeding mode? Or is it up to them to self regulate? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted August 12, 2021 Author Share Posted August 12, 2021 On 8/12/2021 at 12:27 AM, Hobbit said: Interesting… is it possible the parents are worn out from producing two broods? I know my honey male gets really tired if he’s guarding broods back to back. When I clear out his nesting area and his hormones go down, he spends a few days sleeping on the floor of the tank (scaring me half to death). Can you force rams to snap out of breeding mode? Or is it up to them to self regulate? Very good possibility they're worn out. My son had a pair that got looking this way after a few batches. They eventually just aged out and died. That is something to bear in mind. Sometimes you get Rams when they're at a year old. If you keep them warm and breed them a lot, they can just "wear out" and die earlier than normal. But I think I want to try to run them through the meds. It's possible that the live mosquito larvae I was feeding them the other day was unhealthy. Maybe my photoperiod is too long. Not sure. Could just be stress from me pulling eggs too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbit Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 It’s super hard to know. That challenge is what makes fishkeeping fun, right? 😜 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted August 16, 2021 Author Share Posted August 16, 2021 Well… sad to report… the 2nd batch of German Blue Ram fry has “melted away.” I put it that way, because this is typical of fry that aren’t getting what they need from their environment. They just sort of disappear. Good news, though, is batch #2 is going strong. Lots of healthy growth. Here’s an update video… 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbit Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 I appreciate you sharing the ups and downs. Hopefully the next batch does better! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted August 20, 2021 Author Share Posted August 20, 2021 It’s MOVING DAY! (or… “First day of school”) Ram parents are moved to Discus tank. Baby Rams are moved out of net-breeders, and set free to grow out in the 20-long with a school of Pygmy barbs. Here’s a long video if you’re interested in watching the process unedited. I did lose one Ram fry. Otherwise, all’s well! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted August 21, 2021 Author Share Posted August 21, 2021 Ram Fry enjoy BBS in Grow-out tank. The Glowlight Pygmy Barbs scurry around, but do not bother the little Rams. The adult Tam parent pair is also enjoying their new tank together with the Discus. No one bothers them, though the Discus like to “photobomb” as often as possible. They also nibble away at BBS today. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted August 26, 2021 Author Share Posted August 26, 2021 Noticed odd behavior between adult Rams today. Female acting like she’s guarding something. Male keeps acting like he wants back in, but she’s just like “NO!!” 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick_G Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 I enjoy any vids with your Discus and Rams together! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anewbie Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 What temp do you keep your ram and discus ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted August 26, 2021 Author Share Posted August 26, 2021 On 8/26/2021 at 1:41 PM, anewbie said: What temp do you keep your ram and discus ? Very warm in this tank - 85° F avg. Their earlier tank where they first spawned was around 80° F. Rams (and discus) can be kept cooler. I’ve just found, though, that warmer temps seem to work well. Their metabolism will increase, however, so life expectancy shortens a bit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anewbie Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 yea that was why i asked. Someone mentioned to me at 85-86 the rams barely live 2 years; of course if you are breeding them you will always have more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted August 26, 2021 Author Share Posted August 26, 2021 On 8/26/2021 at 3:41 PM, anewbie said: yea that was why i asked. Someone mentioned to me at 85-86 the rams barely live 2 years; of course if you are breeding them you will always have more. Yes. This is correct. Rams are much shorter-lived at high temperatures. All fish are, in fact. It's a matter of purpose. Because I keep fish in order to breed them, I make temperature adjustments accordingly. Interestingly, I have some U.S. Native fish that prefer breeding in COLD temperatures (i.e. Rainbow Darters). I'm still pondering getting a chiller for them eventually. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miranda Marie Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 I had a really great time reading through this journal in its entirety. Thanks so much for sharing! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted August 31, 2021 Author Share Posted August 31, 2021 Adult female Ram (momma) hasn’t been looking good the last few days. She’s looking like she’s got some ailment. I’ve decided to isolate her in a net breeder in the upper left of the tank. The the male is harassing her in the larger tank. Added a small Catappa leaf, some greens to calm her. If she’s got dropsy, she’s not going to make it long. We’ll see. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miranda Marie Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 On 8/31/2021 at 11:18 AM, Fish Folk said: Adult female Ram (momma) hasn’t been looking good the last few days. She’s looking like she’s got some ailment. I’ve decided to isolate her in a net breeder in the upper left of the tank. The the male is harassing her in the larger tank. Added a small Catappa leaf, some greens to calm her. If she’s got dropsy, she’s not going to make it long. We’ll see. Heh, poor mamma. Hopefully she recovers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbit Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 Oh no! I hope she pulls through with some rest from the male. Pesky boy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted September 1, 2021 Author Share Posted September 1, 2021 On 9/1/2021 at 1:57 AM, Hobbit said: Oh no! I hope she pulls through with some rest from the male. Pesky boy. I think she’s got some sort of illness… I’ve seen this in Rams before. They reach a certain age, and this onsets. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted September 2, 2021 Author Share Posted September 2, 2021 Well, some sad though expected news: my female GBR has died. Flooding from Ida forced me to move plugs to secure places, and the heater came unplugged. She was sick though anyhow, so sadly… she’s gone now. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griznatch Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 Sorry to hear about the momma and the continued challenges with Ida! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anewbie Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 ida passed through my neck of the woods and not much happened just a lot of rain. No real flooding. Guess it picked up strength when it moved north or maybe cause we are not next to the ocean like Virginia. Oh well I've never had a sick ram get better; but i've managed to treat several apisto with success. I had one little guy so close to death he was floating upside down at the top; poor little guy thought it was time to be done with him; but gave him another day since the gills were still moving with furan-2 and now 4 months later he is still swimming around happily. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick_G Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 (edited) So sorry! It looks like you got the brunt of the rain this time. I was watching the path closely but didn’t put two and two together until I saw your post. Edited September 2, 2021 by Patrick_G 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted September 3, 2021 Author Share Posted September 3, 2021 On 9/2/2021 at 6:29 PM, Patrick_G said: So sorry! It looks like you got the brunt of the rain this time. I was watching the path closely but didn’t put two and two together until I saw your post. Yeah… western md. Hillbilly land… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick_G Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 It’s a nice place. In my 20s my friends and I spent many weekends hiking and rafting in the Garret County area. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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