AdamTill Posted December 17, 2020 Author Share Posted December 17, 2020 59 minutes ago, ChefConfit said: Also keep in mind that some dechlorinators and other products we use are known to screw with tests. I think prime is one of them. True story. I think it mainly affects the ammonia test, but I don’t know that as a fact. Most often I reach for test strips anyway so I’m not super concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koi Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 2 hours ago, ChefConfit said: Also keep in mind that some dechlorinators and other products we use are known to screw with tests. I think prime is one of them. I could be wrong but I think ammonia is a byproduct of the dechlorinator neutralizing chlorine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seized Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 One pump of easy green contains 20ppm nitrates per ten gallons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
test.tin Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 On 12/16/2020 at 6:51 AM, Mitch Norton said: I’ve been told that Easy Green will increase nitrates 3 ppm with the 1 pump per 10 gallon. That is the base dose for the average aquarist. Depending on your bio load you may need to use more or less. That's super interesting to know, really wished that was printed on the bottle or said more. Very interesting thread you have created here Adam! Definitely gonna help me fine tune my dosing now that its not just a ball park guess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
test.tin Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 On 12/16/2020 at 7:00 PM, AdamTill said: Yup, I don’t doubt it. I know there are nitrate free commercial ferts, but I figure once you’re at the point of needing those may as well just dose dry ferts (plus they're ever so much cheaper). I’m thinking I might start dosing an EI solution made up for daily dosing of the equivalent of 5ppm weekly. I’m going rogue and using a very rich substrate in my next tank, and so I don’t think too much column fertilizer will be required. Going to start a journal tonight if I get a second. If you're planning to go very rich substrate next time, maybe try the ADA approach (lean dosing). On my next rescape, I am also planning to use a very nutrient rich substrate and will be trying lean dosing. Switching to a fertilizer that has no nitrate, I'm thinking about trying APT zero from dennis wong (2hr Aquarist). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 On 12/16/2020 at 9:42 AM, Brandy said: closer to 10ppm in my actual testing. Either that is off, or the "pump" dispenses less than 1ml... I should measure that actually. It can't be much less. @Brandy asks above about how much Easy Green is in 1 pump of Easy Green? I have tested this several times on different pumps and different bottles and it is never more than 0.7 mL and never less than 0.6 mL. Here is a test from a few minutes ago. 16 pumps into a 10 mL calibrated volumetric flask. Which yields a result of 0.625 mL per pump. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 @Daniel I thought that had been reported before, I just couldn't remember where. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamTill Posted December 18, 2020 Author Share Posted December 18, 2020 3 hours ago, test.tin said: If you're planning to go very rich substrate next time, maybe try the ADA approach (lean dosing). On my next rescape, I am also planning to use a very nutrient rich substrate and will be trying lean dosing. Switching to a fertilizer that has no nitrate, I'm thinking about trying APT zero from dennis wong (2hr Aquarist). Oh that’s who runs that site, I like that one. His articles comparing ADA and EI were particularly good I thought. I’m definitely going to be running a compost heavy substrate this time, but I’m also inclined to try a lean EI. I know it’s asking for a bit of trouble if not managed properly, but I’m treating this as another learning experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamTill Posted December 18, 2020 Author Share Posted December 18, 2020 3 hours ago, Daniel said: @Brandy asks above about how much Easy Green is in 1 pump of Easy Green? I have tested this several times on different pumps and different bottles and it is never more than 0.7 mL and never less than 0.6 mL. Here is a test from a few minutes ago. 16 pumps into a 10 mL calibrated volumetric flask. Which yields a result of 0.625 mL per pump. Ah, another wrinkle in the mix. Consistent is key (I remember Cory saying he liked these pump heads for that), but interesting to know they don’t quite deliver that 1ml. At this point I’m just inclined to call it good and go back to dosing by eye, but very good of you to test and share, thanks for that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamTill Posted December 18, 2020 Author Share Posted December 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Brandy said: @Daniel I thought that had been reported before, I just couldn't remember where. News to me at least, but not shocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kammaroon Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 4 hours ago, Daniel said: a 10 mL calibrated volumetric flask I love the look of that flask. Something from a mad alchemist's workshop 😄 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streetwise Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 Sounds accurate to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
test.tin Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 9 hours ago, AdamTill said: Oh that’s who runs that site, I like that one. His articles comparing ADA and EI were particularly good I thought. I’m definitely going to be running a compost heavy substrate this time, but I’m also inclined to try a lean EI. I know it’s asking for a bit of trouble if not managed properly, but I’m treating this as another learning experience. Def a good site to read and reread. You'll never know unless you try, you should def do a build journal. Im curious to see the result of a set up like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamTill Posted December 19, 2020 Author Share Posted December 19, 2020 10 hours ago, test.tin said: Def a good site to read and reread. You'll never know unless you try, you should def do a build journal. Im curious to see the result of a set up like that. I set one up here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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