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At one point we had around 30 goldfish tanks, all running sponge filters. No issues other than lots of cleaning.

You could try a spot treatment with peroxide on a qtip if you’re comfortable handling him, but I’d keep the meds. For an unknown fish, use gloves. Is this a Pan Farms fish (via King Koi or something)?

I don’t think there’s risk of death,but the treatment protocols aren’t pleasant. Plus in our case a 2 month old was involved

Thanks for that! Can you post a picture of some of your otos? We can probably determine species if you don’t already know.

Species make a big diff too. The only one I can personally predictably reproduce are true vittatus. That’s maddening because basically all stores call “common” otos either vittatus or affinis. Some are true vittatus, basically none are affinis. They seem to be able to handle cocama.

Purigen. Scott has written a bunch on “Clearwater botanicals” in his blog, like so https://tanninaquatics.com/blogs/the-tint-1/on-the-tint Carbon doesn’t remove a meaningful amount of fertilizer btw, though the number is non zero. Otherwise we’d all just run carbon rather than removing nitrate with water changes

Neat, always like seeing oto spawning reports. What’s your water management like?

I used to be heavily involved,but it’s been a LONG time. This was one of the last articles I wrote I think. https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?214275-Eraser-XE-Plettenberg-Ergo-Combination-Review I was also doing aerial photography back then before you could just plop down $100 on something out of the box 🙂

If I had to guess it’s because of the rarity of it, combined with relatively few firm diagnoses. I know we had it because it was diagnosed by a veterinary pathologist, but if you look through an average disease post on an average site most people don’t have the faintest clue how to figure out what’s affecting their fish. It’s the old joke about the tetra that’s bitten in half being diagnose with Ich. Then even when people are careful, they’re usually looked at as paranoid. I remember an interview with Gianne the betta lady where she said she doesn’t touch fish tank water without gloves on, and at the time I thought that was way overkill. I likewise remember someone asking Cory about it on a stream and he said he’d never seen it and thus wasn’t overly concerned about doing things like Gianne does. So, there you go I guess. I don’t do gloves but I also basically don’t buy fish anymore. I was super paranoid around the ones I have for about a year acting like they were contaminated, and now I’m just breeding those to maintain the population. It definitely changes how you keep fish, for sure.

Sympathies, but I’m not in a position to say not to be. Getting it is statistically rare, especially with bettas given how they’re raised isolated.

All good, if some good can come out of it it’s at least being able to warn others. We’ve dealt with it and moved on (though I only keep a single tank now). Nerd cred requires me to point out that they’re actually egg fish (blue egg phoenix’s) rather than fantails. Biggest difference is eggfish don’t have dorsal fins 🙂

Sadly so @Brandy. I detailed what happened here if it helps:

Got the FX5 hooked up today and...I’m underwhelmed. Think there’s a gyre pump in my future. Also got my CO2 tank strapped in and chained down, and the regulator hooked up and checked. No time to run tubing because I did my first 50% water change (daily for first week), so the CO2 might be for tomorrow. Not a big deal because I ran out of smart switches, so I have some more on order.

If you could be sure it was gill flukes you need far more than the standard dose. This shows concentration https://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/fa033 When we had them I think it ended up as triple strength Prazipro but I can’t quite remember.

I gave up and bought a little bar fridge. They’re typically pretty cheap used.