WhitecloudDynasty Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 On 6/23/2021 at 7:45 PM, JoefishGofish said: @WhitecloudDynastyyou said earlier that your ponds freeze over during winter and the Shiners do ok? What about your White Clouds? My ponds currently have some 1-2 year old White Clouds from inside, and 1 month old Shiner fry. Wondering how they’ll all do overwintering with freezing temps. this could be a discussion for the fall LOL….? I breed too much to keep in aquarium, so mostly all the shiner are kept outside..white cloud does fine also 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitecloudDynasty Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 Ok this will be my very last batch of the year lol I'm going to leave the females in with the males after this, they can breed as much as they want, but I won't collect their eggs. This way it help keep the female from getting egg bound 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitecloudDynasty Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 On 7/6/2021 at 1:08 PM, citaerlet said: i would love some specifics, the substrate looks like hollow cerimac cylinders, i would guess that the eggs fall inbetween them and the parents cant eat them.how long did you winter them, and at what temperature. I kept mine all year outside, the lowest it drop was in the low 20f 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitecloudDynasty Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 @JoefishGofish the first set starting to color up so I'm moving them down to the bigger tub 180gallon moving the the second set outside to the top tub 110gallon Still have the third set in the fishroom lol 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoefishGofish Posted July 12, 2021 Author Share Posted July 12, 2021 So how old is the first set that are starting to colour up? My oldest batch is 45 days old. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoefishGofish Posted July 12, 2021 Author Share Posted July 12, 2021 ……and those tubs are huge!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitecloudDynasty Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 On 7/12/2021 at 6:56 PM, JoefishGofish said: So how old is the first set that are starting to colour up? My oldest batch is 45 days old. They will be 5 months on the 23 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoefishGofish Posted July 16, 2021 Author Share Posted July 16, 2021 Had my first over feeding of BBS with a tank of fry. It was exciting to feed them and see there bellies full and brown. I have a tank with some 11 days olds and they were taking BBS but not all of it was eaten and by morning the tank was quite cloudy and a few dead fry on bottom. ……lesson learned. Rookie mistake. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitecloudDynasty Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 On 7/16/2021 at 11:14 AM, JoefishGofish said: Had my first over feeding of BBS with a tank of fry. It was exciting to feed them and see there bellies full and brown. I have a tank with some 11 days olds and they were taking BBS but not all of it was eaten and by morning the tank was quite cloudy and a few dead fry on bottom. ……lesson learned. Rookie mistake. Sweet! I use bbs also, it help them grow fast enough to get them on .1mm pellets. I noticed feeding alot off bbs for a long time creates too many runner. I like all my frys to be the same size possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoefishGofish Posted July 16, 2021 Author Share Posted July 16, 2021 Too many runner? Do you mean the odd large sized ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoefishGofish Posted July 16, 2021 Author Share Posted July 16, 2021 This tank has the fry from the early May groups. May 6 and May 14 spawnings so these guys are 9 & 8 weeks old. I’ve put about 100 of these outside already but the remaining I want to monitor growing indoors. I just added 100-150 fry from June 11 & 19 spawns to a stock tank that feeds my aquaponics grow op. They’ll need another 3-4 months before they are big enough to eat enough to poop enough to feed the plants!! Keep spawning Shiners because I’ve got plans for you guys!!!! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoefishGofish Posted July 16, 2021 Author Share Posted July 16, 2021 …..And my math was way off when I was asked in an earlier post by @WhitecloudDynastyhow old my fry were. I said 45 days. I need to clear the fog from my brain some days. My oldest 2 fry are from an April 20th spawn. Only 2. Very proud. Then my next successful spawn, collection and hatch of 150-250 fry was May 6. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitecloudDynasty Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 On 7/16/2021 at 1:47 PM, JoefishGofish said: …..And my math was way off when I was asked in an earlier post by @WhitecloudDynastyhow old my fry were. I said 45 days. I need to clear the fog from my brain some days. My oldest 2 fry are from an April 20th spawn. Only 2. Very proud. Then my next successful spawn, collection and hatch of 150-250 fry was May 6. I write down all my hatched date with a little note. I been keeping record since 2015. Any yes runner are the odd one that grow too quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoefishGofish Posted August 3, 2021 Author Share Posted August 3, 2021 (edited) We’ll, I understand the benefits of Summer Tubbing now. The shiner fry that I put outside in my ponds are the same size as the ones I have inside. The inside fry get a variety of foods at my expense, and the ones outside eat whatever they can find and whenever they find it. I just need to get through this coming winter and have a good survival rate before I really trust the cold weather parameters of the Rainbow Shiner. If they do well, I’ll be stocking my ponds more heavily in the spring and going forward for growing out. …just the Fry in the ponds are more timid and difficult to photograph. Edited August 3, 2021 by JoefishGofish Spelling 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabby Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 This is such an interesting thread. Congrats on such successful spawns Joe! Good luck with the ones in the pond over winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoefishGofish Posted August 12, 2021 Author Share Posted August 12, 2021 Learned something else today,….…..was adding some 1 month old fry to my 65 gallon tub for my aquaponics setup. That tub has some 2 month olds and some 3 month old fry in it. Shiner Fry will eat anything they can get their mouths around. I don’t know why I thought it would be different, except that some fish don’t eat their young (White Clouds etc.). I fed the older ones heavily before adding the newest but they were very intrigued by the new fun food source I’d just added. ……they may be all picked off by tomorrow. Time will tell. Another lesson learned. I need more tanks. I always need more tanks!!! 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitecloudDynasty Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 On 8/12/2021 at 4:01 PM, JoefishGofish said: Learned something else today,….…..was adding some 1 month old fry to my 65 gallon tub for my aquaponics setup. That tub has some 2 month olds and some 3 month old fry in it. Shiner Fry will eat anything they can get their mouths around. I don’t know why I thought it would be different, except that some fish don’t eat their young (White Clouds etc.). I fed the older ones heavily before adding the newest but they were very intrigued by the new fun food source I’d just added. ……they may be all picked off by tomorrow. Time will tell. Another lesson learned. I need more tanks. I always need more tanks!!! Yes they are very aggressive feeder. My rosy barb are worst cause they have bigger mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbit Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 The lesson is always, “I need more tanks.” 😆 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitecloudDynasty Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 @JoefishGofish did you ever get your 1000s fry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoefishGofish Posted October 23, 2021 Author Share Posted October 23, 2021 Yes I do!!!! I’ve traded some now. And a member from this blog has some of mine now too. They look amazing in big schools. My LFS is interested in carrying some. They are doing really well. I will continue to grow them out and put the majority outside next spring and see if anyone else is interested in them. 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitecloudDynasty Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 On 10/23/2021 at 11:47 AM, JoefishGofish said: Yes I do!!!! I’ve traded some now. And a member from this blog has some of mine now too. They look amazing in big schools. My LFS is interested in carrying some. They are doing really well. I will continue to grow them out and put the majority outside next spring and see if anyone else is interested in them. Sweet! Keeping passing them around! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitecloudDynasty Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 @JoefishGofish I see you never stopped breeding them. You're going to be the master rainbow shiner breeder soon lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoefishGofish Posted January 6, 2022 Author Share Posted January 6, 2022 (edited) @WhitecloudDynastyYes I have. I plan to heavily stock an outdoor pond to watch the schooling in a stream I built. I’m also using the stocks in my aquaponic grow op in my basement. I continue to try and build a better egg catcher. Right now there seems to be a lot of egg consuming before they fall through the stones to be collected. Have’nt approached any LFS’s to sell them. I want them for myself right now. its now been a full year since I started trying to breed. Lots of learning. Lots of fun. I’ve posted some videos on Joefishgofish on YouTube. Edited January 6, 2022 by JoefishGofish Typo 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitecloudDynasty Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 I just started again All from 1 female 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoefishGofish Posted January 24, 2022 Author Share Posted January 24, 2022 How many males were in with her for the spawning? I find it nearly impossible to catch my individuals. My tanks are too large. 75g Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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