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  1. @Adrian Rodriguez Wow! Easy as that, hey?! That’s really cool. Can’t wait to see the fry! I put my female back in the tank today with a divider. Waiting on the male to build a bubble nest again. Unfortunately I haven’t got my live bloodworm and mosquito larvae bucket pumping food out yet, so I had to condition without live foods, but they both look ready to go. This is my setup: Male on the left, female on the right. 2 almond leaves, some Java moss, a piece of styrofoam and a plastic lid for the bubble nest, with a heater and sponge filter just cuz it’s been pretty cold, and I wanted to keep the male in there while the female was reconditioning. Cling wrap over the top to maintain humidity. It’s a 5 gallon tank, cuz that was the easiest thing for me to set it all up in. Not paying much attention to any parameters besides keeping the temp roughly in the 26° ballpark. The water is pretty thick with tannic acid. Should I try putting some sort of sheet or something over the tank so it’s a bit darker? I assume you wouldn’t have any light in your buckets with the lids on. Cheers mate!
  2. Holy moly they’re gorgeous! Good luck! Wow, I wish we had them in Australia, they’re so cool!!! Every time I see them on a video I just gawp… can’t imagine how nice they are in person.
  3. That’s a beautiful male! Very surprised at how simple your setup is. Thanks for detailing all this for me, so kind of you. I really like the plastic lid idea, I’m gonna give that a go as well as the styrofoam I’m using just so I can see more easily.
  4. That’s exciting! I’m a fan of actually not pulling eggs or fry, but in a situation like this where pulling them is imperative to their survival, I would wait until seeing some physical sign of eggs or free swimming fry. Maybe you could rotate the cave somewhat so as not to really disturb the fish in an effort to see into the cave?
  5. Ahaha oh man that’s hard. How annoying. Totally looks like one of my female fry in the second pic 😂 In the first pic he looks male just from body shape. But I guess you’re right, you’ll just have to wait and see.
  6. Ahaha I see where the difficulty would be if he keeps getting that black dot back! 😂 Female is definitely a female. The male looks a lot like a male in that image, but if you’re not sure then my personal favourite way to tell is using the ventral fins. It’s not the same for all apistos, but certainly for nijsseni, panduro and similar looking types, the males will have ventral fins that are clear at the top and yellow at the bottom, while a female will have thicker ventrals that have black at the top and yellow at the bottom. You can use this to tell their sex from only a couple months old. If you’d like, I think I still have a breeding log or something like that that documented my spawn and the conditions. Got most of it in the old noggin but if you wanna have a look at that I’d be happy to go find it and post it as an article or something. edit: apparently this forum doesn’t use articles. A bit of a shame. They’re a pretty useful feature for finding undiluted information. I guess I would post it as an informational topic then 🤷‍♂️
  7. Oh, panduro are beautiful. I think there’s actually quite a bit of similarity between panduro, nijsseni and baenschi (inka 50), so if you want I could confirm for you whether it’s a male or not. Apistos can be a bit difficult with their colour changing tendencies. But it’s all worth it in the end. I’ve only bred mine in their community tank (planted and scaped, with substrate), and raised the fry in there too. I think the planted tank is actually the best way to do it, and it looks so much better as well. I think if you were looking to actually make some money off breeding apistos, you’d want to seperate the fry from the parents maybe a couple weeks in? The mum takes very good care of the fry, but to grow them fast I would seperate them from the parents and raise them in bare bottom tanks. Indian almond leaves are key for apistos too; mine bred at 5.5 pH with very soft water and low TDS, so lots of IAL and driftwood will create the perfect environment. Good luck!
  8. Thank you so much for your advice mate. I really appreciate your time. Breeding fish is one of my favourite parts of the hobby, and bettas seem to have such a fascinating breeding process that I’m certainly going to keep trying until I get a successful spawn, at least. I actually started off breeding apistos, and they’re super cool in their own way, especially with their courtship and parenting. I hate to have favourites… but my apistogramma nijsseni pair are totally my favourite fish. What types of apistos did/do you keep and breed? I regret not trying to breed immediately when I saw her dropping eggs. I did try maybe 12 hours later, but by then she was really exhausted and freaked out, and my male didn’t have time to build a bubble nest in the breeding tank. I think my takeaway from that experience is that I should simply introduce the fish to each other with a divider and it should be inside the breeding tank so that as soon as they’re ready to go, I am too. Your advice has been really helpful regarding this spawn attempt, and I reckon with your tips in mind I should be able to get a successful spawn next time. Cheers!
  9. The tank in the first image looks very similar to mine. Not sure if you’re aware but IAL is just an acronym for Indian almond leaf. I agree, they’re amazing for breeding all sorts of fish and shrimp! If you don’t think it’ll work because she was dropping eggs, I’ll pull her now. Thanks for saying that, I wasn’t sure whether it would affect the spawning. I’ll go get some more mosquito larvae to re-condition her. Can I leave the male in the breeding tank?
  10. I had them separated for 3 or 4 days before the female started dropping eggs, then I tried spawning them and the female was really not into it, so I took her out and left him in the tank. That was earlier this week. Then I reintroduced her to him for a day before trying this attempt. I tried the bottle method but she hated it, totally got freaked out because he wouldn’t leave her alone, so I changed it to a divider and they both acted much better (she was really into him, and he was still into her but finally started making his bubble nest. He already had a good nest when I released her, but he’s insisted on making a fricking bubble mansion now, although I don’t think he realises it doesn’t matter if he keeps being weird and won’t let the female get close. I’ve got them breeding in a 5 gallon tank filled halfway up with IAL + aquarium-salt water as recommended earlier in the thread. Couple of IAL, big bunch of Java moss behind one leaf so she can fully hide from him, a sponge filter turned off, and a little bit of duckweed. The duckweed wasn’t intentional of course… it’s duckweed.
  11. He’s certainly flaring for her, he seems pretty interested, but then he has these weird moments where he just gives up on his attempts to impress her and chases her off. Is there anything I can do to have a better chance of them spawning at this point?
  12. @Adrian Rodriguezif they haven’t spawned yet after 10 hours but they don’t look like they’re being very aggressive (male is chasing the female a little but he just darts after her then leaves her alone) I should be fine to leave them together, right? Also is there anything I can do to stop the male from chasing the female every time she checks out the bubble nest? Cuz it’s meant to be good when she does that, but every time he chases her away. He’s very possessive of it. And I’m almost positive they haven’t spawned yet. He just wants to keep making it bigger and bigger, for seemingly no purpose.
  13. Yeah I’m not bothering with testing parameters. I’ve heard some great breeders talk about temp being important so I’m trying to aim for 26°C but it’s a loose goal. We’re in winter right now so it’s hard to get that temp, but I’m getting 24+ at least. The female was VERY plump before dropping all those infertile eggs, and she’s back to normal size now (which I think is semi-plump anyways?) so I'm hoping she’s still ready. I’ve decided to use a divider instead of separating with the female in a bottle, and she’s instantly way more interactive with the male, and the male is now equally interested in her and in the styrofoam piece I put in there for his bubble nest. Maybe it’s not the conventional method, but I’m getting a much better response from the fish already. I think I should be able to attempt a spawn tomorrow. Hopes are very high.
  14. Yeah I think I’ll still give it a go. If it doesn’t work out then I’ll wait a couple more weeks and restart the process. I’m a little worried now about the female because she’s not only dropping eggs, but weird shapes that seem to be made of the egg-material. I can’t for the life of me work out what they are. But hopefully actually spawning might help to get it out of her system.
  15. So I got nervous last night and tried a spawn. They kept looking promising, then not promising, then promising again, and not promising again… and after 20 minutes I didn’t have a good feeling about it and decided to cork it. The male is staying in the tank so he can build up a nice bubble nest, and the female has gone back to her tank. Not sure whether to try again tomorrow or wait longer.
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