Fish Folk Posted November 12, 2022 Author Share Posted November 12, 2022 More BNP eggs starting to hatch / unfold… Study this first. I’ve traced a few out… Now watch this 13-sec. short… 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd Duck Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 😃 Wigglers are soooo cute! Especially fat bellied ones like these pleco babies laying on their giant egg sacs! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted November 12, 2022 Author Share Posted November 12, 2022 I realize this is going to get old. But here’s another egg-hatching video… 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guppysnail Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 That is part of the pleco hatching we so rarely get to see. Occasionally when one hatches it pops out of the cave. I had a few pop out dads first time from inexperience. Life starting never gets old for me. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flumpweesel Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 They remind me of kids on space hoppers. Super cute thanks for sharing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd Duck Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Not the slightest bit boring! Adorable! Now I see why Daddy is sometimes at the front of the cave trying to wrangle the little popcorns. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 Dear NERMs! I am thrilled to share this post with you. Enjoy this! (1) Here is how the hatchery looked this afternoon… (2) Here is a photo of the flow-through tray in proximity to the hatchery… (3) Carefully, I moved the hatchery over to the tray. Here’s a video of the wigglers… (4) Now, here is the aftermath of releasing them into the tray, with some explanations… (5) And here is their finished digs… 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guppysnail Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 I call that a successful hatch! 🥳 I always throw leaves in with them. The first few days after they absorb the yolk they seem to prefer biofilm to anything else. (Sure you already know that🤗) I cannot be more thrilled with the success you have had with hatching this batch. Now I feel confident to be able to share the eggs! Thank you for such a detailed account of this. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 On 11/13/2022 at 4:14 PM, Guppysnail said: I always throw leaves in with them What kind of leaves do you like to give them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guppysnail Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 On 11/13/2022 at 4:18 PM, Fish Folk said: What kind of leaves do you like to give them? Almond. I buy them bulk because they seem to develop biofilm quicker and the babies that attach to those are 2-1 over oak. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Great job so far my friend. Such a rewarding feeling when you can accomplish something like this. I can wait for mine to mature and spawn! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 On 11/12/2022 at 6:40 PM, Fish Folk said: I realize this is going to get old. But here’s another egg-hatching video… That will never get old. Watching new life start is and always will be worth watching every time. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabokovfan87 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 On 11/13/2022 at 12:58 PM, Fish Folk said: (5) And here is their finished digs… I appreciate all the detail you're giving with the clips and stuff. A lot of us might never get to experience this and I am really enjoying seeing it so well Not a joke, but slightly funny. I was staring at my tank and thinking to myself earlier, "well, what am I going to do with all these eggshells everywhere for the ones that don't hatch?" It's fine..... I just need some rest and coffee. LOL *takes a sip of coffee* Off to go try to do that water change.... I think I have a decent plan. Oh I was going to say. Add some wood if you can. I think Dean, and many others, has reported that it's very helpful to success. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSwissAquarist Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 On 11/13/2022 at 10:14 PM, Guppysnail said: I call that a successful hatch! 🥳 I always throw leaves in with them. The first few days after they absorb the yolk they seem to prefer biofilm to anything else. (Sure you already know that🤗) I cannot be more thrilled with the success you have had with hatching this batch. Now I feel confident to be able to share the eggs! Thank you for such a detailed account of this. I tend to put them in a grow out tank and throw in a couple of food tablets once the yolk has been entirely absorbed & they've started exploring. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy's Fish Den Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 This is cool to read about! Congrats on the successful hatch of these BNP. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 On 11/12/2022 at 8:29 AM, TeeJay said: You know @Guppysnail has her hands in so many different fun adventures I can never keep up with them all Me neither! 🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 @Fish Folk I appreciate the videos and the narrative. It's fascinating to follow along, and I love the fry container that you made. It's nice & neat. I wonder how you got the styrofoam so neat. Mine always sheds a bunch of beads when I try to cut it. Are you pushing water into the fry box with a fountain pump or are you just allowing water to swish in & out through the coarse sponge? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted November 14, 2022 Author Share Posted November 14, 2022 On 11/14/2022 at 8:09 AM, Chick-In-Of-TheSea said: @Fish Folk I appreciate the videos and the narrative. It's fascinating to follow along, and I love the fry container that you made. It's nice & neat. I wonder how you got the styrofoam so neat. Mine always sheds a bunch of beads when I try to cut it. Are you pushing water into the fry box with a fountain pump or are you just allowing water to swish in & out through the coarse sponge? Thanks! I just cut my styro collar from panel insulation I get at Lowes. I cut really slowly and deliberately. But I think @tolstoy21 has a much better cutting system! I just let water flow through. The airstone creates enough agitation that enough water flows through the sponges to balance out the chemistry. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tolstoy21 Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 (edited) @Chick-In-Of-TheSea@Fish Folk I use a hot-wire-cutter I got off Amazon. You can get these as cutting tables or hand-held cutters depending on your needs. They make amazingly super-clean, precise cuts and are used regularly in arts-n-crafts for people who work with foam. They cut through foam like the foam were made out of butter. Edited November 14, 2022 by tolstoy21 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minanora Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 This has to be one of the neatest things I've seen in a while. Congratulations you guys! I look forward to seeing them grow out. What a treat! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd Duck Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 I put the IAL in right away so there’s good biofilm ready when the yolks are absorbed. I do get some floating plants in there, too. I prefer red root floaters over frogbit because frogbit roots get longer than I want in my breeding net. I also put at least one or two small pieces of well-seasoned wood in immediately, following along with @Dean’s Fishroom. I like using cholla that is softened enough I can split it open and make tiny hides. The babies really like to get between layers of the IAL’s so I use at least 2-3 small pieces. I put the breeder net in front of the outflow on an HOB so it pushes a very gentle flow of water through the net. I also try to get a couple bladder snails or a ramshorn snail into the breeder net for clean up of any food the babies haven’t eaten once you’re feeding them (for anybody that hasn’t done this before). I know you like your snail crew, @Fish Folk. They’re so helpful, aren’t they? Thanks for sharing the videos. The little babies popcorning around is absolutely charming! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted November 15, 2022 Author Share Posted November 15, 2022 Here’s a Good News / Bad News / Good News Taco… (1) There seems to be an excellent core of BNP fry growing out successfully… (2) Sadly, I’ve been experiencing about 10-12x deaths each day… I’m not sure why. (3) Per ye olde NERMish advice, I’ve added established wood and Catappa leaves… (4) I’m going to add a snail… and maybe a pinch of Spirulina… 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guppysnail Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 I use sera Micron. It seems to coat surfaces. I definitely have better luck in anything not a sterile grow out. Tends to be the yuckier (with excellent water) the higher survival. They have not absorbed their yolk yet though. I wonder if at the discus temp they need more air maybe? Just a guess. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd Duck Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 I wondered about that temp, too. Mine I run 76-77’F. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted November 18, 2022 Author Share Posted November 18, 2022 Things are going great! Thanks for advice on adding Catappa leaves and wood. Here’s a video showing how they layer in those leaves like bees in a hive… 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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