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No idea how this will go. Thought I’d make a thread, and workshop this project “out loud.”

So, @Guppysnail has some really amazing long-finned Lemon Blue Eye BNPs that breed like clockwork. Too many fry to keep up with though.

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So we are working out the logistics of (1) shipping eggs to a prospective buyer, with (2) a relatively fool-proof method for hatching and growing out so buyers can expect success, and start a batch of their own.

We’ve done this once already. Many went down to fungus in my hatching container. I got about 10x to make it awhile. But sadly… I think my Killis decided they should attack them. So this round, I’m trying out an older style egg tumbler…

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An air-stone sucks water through the sponge on the bottom…

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I squirted a few mls of m-blue underneath and let it gently saturate the water column. Discus got very interested…

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Will stay tuned. Might crash and burn, but at least it looks pretty 🤩 

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Going to share what happens here, so even if things fail, we can learn together. This may startle some of you, but here is how I’m using methylene blue in this egg tumbler. The water is being drawn through from the bottom, so I squirt ca. 2 ml. into the tank water column underneath the tumbler, and let the water flow draw it up through the eggs. It looks intense, but really passes over rather quickly…

Minutes later, here’s “Red” window shopping…

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If you look closely at the eggs, there are a few that are clearly infertile. But so far, fungus hasn’t set in…

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I’m going to begin working on a simple DIY version of an egg tumbler that could be made and mailed out with eggs. 

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On 11/11/2022 at 12:35 PM, Fish Folk said:

Going to share what happens here, so even if things fail, we can learn together. This may startle some of you, but here is how I’m using methylene blue in this egg tumbler. The water is being drawn through from the bottom, so I squirt ca. 2 ml. into the tank water column underneath the tumbler, and let the water flow draw it up through the eggs. It looks intense, but really passes over rather quickly…

Minutes later, here’s “Red” window shopping…

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If you look closely at the eggs, there are a few that are clearly infertile. But so far, fungus hasn’t set in…

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I’m going to begin working on a simple DIY version of an egg tumbler that could be made and mailed out with eggs. 

Can't wait to see how this pans out!

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Alrighty. Been tinkering around here. I’m positive there are a dozen ways to improve on this, but here is Draft #1 of a DIY Egg Tumbler. Special thanks to my oldest son (the original FISH FOLK) who helped film this…

Now, after filming this, I added a strip of flex-seal tape around the two bottom inserts to keep them from turning sideways and popping out. Already version 1.1 😂

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On 11/11/2022 at 6:35 AM, Fish Folk said:

Going to share what happens here, so even if things fail, we can learn together. This may startle some of you, but here is how I’m using methylene blue in this egg tumbler. The water is being drawn through from the bottom, so I squirt ca. 2 ml. into the tank water column underneath the tumbler, and let the water flow draw it up through the eggs. It looks intense, but really passes over rather quickly…

Minutes later, here’s “Red” window shopping…

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If you look closely at the eggs, there are a few that are clearly infertile. But so far, fungus hasn’t set in…

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I’m going to begin working on a simple DIY version of an egg tumbler that could be made and mailed out with eggs. 

@nabokovfan87 are you using methylene blue as well in your tumbler?

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On 11/11/2022 at 3:27 PM, Fish Folk said:

Alrighty. Been tinkering around here. I’m positive there are a dozen wats to improve on this, but here is Draft #1 of a DIY Egg Tumbler. Special thanks to my oldest son (the original FISH FOLK) who helped film this…

Now, after filming this, I added a strip of flex-seal tape around the two bottom inserts to keep them from turning sideways and popping out. Already version 1.1 😂

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Actually quite a good design!

Is there already a patent 😜?

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On 11/11/2022 at 11:14 AM, Beardedbillygoat1975 said:

@Chick-In-Of-TheSeahe put some methylene in then let it soak in but with the tumbler it will always end up in the water column. 

@Guppysnailand @Fish FolkI have a new Ziss tumbler just waiting for a batch! Let me know how I can aid your experiment!

We have stuck to one day ground shipping since they hatch starting 3 days sometimes. You could be a trial for if they survive the pressure changes of air travel. 

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On 11/11/2022 at 11:21 AM, Beardedbillygoat1975 said:

@Guppysnaili would pay for overnight ups. They’re worth it to me. DM me if when you’re ready. @Patrick_Gand I can be the west coast trial!

Keep your fingers crossed for @Fish Folk to have a successful hatch with this method!  The entire reason I asked for his help was so I could get them out there. 

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On 11/11/2022 at 7:27 AM, Chick-In-Of-TheSea said:

@nabokovfan87 are you using methylene blue as well in your tumbler?

I have it, but not using it on the tank. There was a suggestion to just take the tumbler and do a dip/bath with it if I need to. We'll see how it goes. First time with one of these so it's all new to me.

I have read and heard about long term issues with methylene blue. It's in Ich-X so I'm not really that concerned. Day 1. So we'll see how things look and play it by ear.

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On 11/11/2022 at 11:37 AM, Fish Folk said:

Woah! Check this out!! First BNP egg hatching in tumbler…

Literally one of the most amazing things.

Maybe one day we get a co-op video like this with Dean showing all of his egg tips!?!?!?!?!? From egg to fry, literally, in a video with all the fascinating slow parts.

Very cool of you to share this.  Thank you!

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On 11/11/2022 at 4:54 PM, nabokovfan87 said:

methylene blue

I have used methylene blue and malacate green to treat Ich numerous times in my community tank as they are the main ingredients of UK meds for ick and fungus. And I always end up with fry afterwards from someone. Seems to really tip the visibility odds in the community set up.

Thanks for doing this thread @Fish Folkand @Guppysnail I see eggs for sale all the time and I really wonder if they'd be fun to try. Egg tumbler going on Christmas list.

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