WhitecloudDynasty Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 On 1/24/2022 at 12:22 PM, JoefishGofish said: How many males were in with her for the spawning? I find it nearly impossible to catch my individuals. My tanks are too large. 75g Just 1 male Thats one reason I breed them in a 20long. Easy to catch and just enough room, too big of an aquarium and they may spawn somewhere else, too small the female may get hassle too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoefishGofish Posted January 24, 2022 Author Share Posted January 24, 2022 It’s been no problem collecting the eggs, rather, there’s enough to work with. They seem to only spawn on the rocks I place in the tank at the time of colour change. Fry have not been reintroduced to the breeding population yet so there’s no been no breeding yet. Eventually I’d need to introduce new bloodlines, yes? we may need to set up a trade? I’ll try catching one male and one fat female sometime to see how that works. Interesting to compare the numbers of eggs that actually get collected vs. all the eggs that get eaten during the group spawn!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitecloudDynasty Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 On 1/24/2022 at 5:43 PM, JoefishGofish said: It’s been no problem collecting the eggs, rather, there’s enough to work with. They seem to only spawn on the rocks I place in the tank at the time of colour change. Fry have not been reintroduced to the breeding population yet so there’s no been no breeding yet. Eventually I’d need to introduce new bloodlines, yes? we may need to set up a trade? I’ll try catching one male and one fat female sometime to see how that works. Interesting to compare the numbers of eggs that actually get collected vs. all the eggs that get eaten during the group spawn!! I wouldn't worry about inbred til a few year since you breed in big group. Who know who bred with who, half brother to aunt, half brother to half sister..ect that's the pro in breeding large group. You'll lose alot of eggs in big group, to many mouth everywhere lol With pair you'll get more eggs per fish and you get to line breed what you want. My larger set so far was from 2 pair at 500ish fry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoefishGofish Posted January 26, 2022 Author Share Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) So I’ve selected 1 nice female and 1 nice male and have placed them in a 10 gallon with a container with rocks. @WhitecloudDynastyDo you recommend darkening the tank? They we’re starting to fire up when I selected them. Now they are hiding. I’m hoping they are just adjusting and will get back in the tonight or tomorrow. Edited January 26, 2022 by JoefishGofish Typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitecloudDynasty Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 On 1/26/2022 at 2:13 PM, JoefishGofish said: So I’ve selected 1 nice female and 1 nice male and have placed them in a 10 gallon with a container with rocks. @WhitecloudDynastyDo you recommend darkening the tank? They we’re starting to fire up when I selected them. Now they are hiding. I’m hoping they are just adjusting and will get back in the tonight or tomorrow. I normally place them in at night so when they wake up they aren't so freak out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoefishGofish Posted January 26, 2022 Author Share Posted January 26, 2022 Too late now! Guess we’ll see what happens. I’ll set the mood with some Barry White music. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoefishGofish Posted February 10, 2022 Author Share Posted February 10, 2022 On 1/24/2022 at 1:36 PM, WhitecloudDynasty said: Just 1 male Thats one reason I breed them in a 20long. Easy to catch and just enough room, too big of an aquarium and they may spawn somewhere else, too small the female may get hassle too much. So I moved 1 male and 2 fat females into a 5 gallon hoping to breed them. The male ended up in a potted plant next to the tank a few days later. I don’t have lids on my tanks and clearly a 5 gallon is too small for those adult fish. Too bad. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitecloudDynasty Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 On 2/10/2022 at 9:01 AM, JoefishGofish said: So I moved 1 male and 2 fat females into a 5 gallon hoping to breed them. The male ended up in a potted plant next to the tank a few days later. I don’t have lids on my tanks and clearly a 5 gallon is too small for those adult fish. Too bad. Yes Even with pair I use a 29long...you got to keep them happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoefishGofish Posted February 11, 2022 Author Share Posted February 11, 2022 Another point of interest is how temperature affects growth rates of fry. At 70F+ from egg to swimming is consistently 10-13 days. My tanks are at 63F and the fry took 20 days fully swim and that doesn’t include them all. Many are still laying low in the bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitecloudDynasty Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 On 2/11/2022 at 7:47 AM, JoefishGofish said: Another point of interest is how temperature affects growth rates of fry. At 70F+ from egg to swimming is consistently 10-13 days. My tanks are at 63F and the fry took 20 days fully swim and that doesn’t include them all. Many are still laying low in the bottom. Thats so weird...I'm at 65degree now and it's still 8-9days before freeswimming. I do drop the water lv halfway and have a tight lid. Maybe they are picking up warmer air at the surface quicker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoefishGofish Posted February 13, 2022 Author Share Posted February 13, 2022 …..and then today I see 70% loss of newly hatched fry! I did a final water change on day 3 after collecting the eggs, my water was aged 24 hours. Not sure what happened! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoefishGofish Posted February 13, 2022 Author Share Posted February 13, 2022 I may have the airstone on too high. Perhaps It’s creating current and causing the fry to fight it. I’ll lower the water level too. I was keeping it full to the top thinking the more clean water in the tank the less chance of it going cloudy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitecloudDynasty Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 On 2/13/2022 at 12:00 PM, JoefishGofish said: I may have the airstone on too high. Perhaps It’s creating current and causing the fry to fight it. I’ll lower the water level too. I was keeping it full to the top thinking the more clean water in the tank the less chance of it going cloudy. Lower the water lv would help, they can get up and get air with less work, plus less water pressure on the newborn fry. Most of the time they breed in a few inches of water 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoefishGofish Posted February 14, 2022 Author Share Posted February 14, 2022 So interesting. I never considered water pressure. Of course. Thank you. Always learning and accepting of more helpful information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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