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Hi, when I bought my corydoras from the store they had them labeled as Green Corydoras. As they have grown they have gotten darker and changed to a more bronzed color. I have pictures (sorry they are not the best quality) of them and their babies. Does anyone know which they are? Green or Bronze Corydoras? I want to sell the babies and want to be sure which they are. Thank you for any help you can give me! 

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If you can, try to take some photos backed off a bit, focused a bit sharper and so we can see the whole body on the sides of the fish.

Especially the first few photos it's really difficult to see the shape due to the focus / blur.

Most "green corydoras" usually means one of two things...

emerald green or salt + Pepper corydoras

Emerald Green:
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These guys are easy to tell because of the defined snout and the defined large size.  Of corydoras species, these ones do get bigger, broader, and sort of remind me of Arnold Schwarzenegger so to speak.

Peppered Cory (Corydoras Paleatus):  These guys do stay small and do like cooler temps. Very similar to panda.
Cory - Peppered Paleatus Cory Catfish - Arizona Aquatic Gardens

On 1/9/2023 at 10:09 AM, Gregs_Gal said:

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These ones look like @Ken Burke's Venezuelan (actual Venezuelan) corydoras fry.

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Yes I only have paleatus Cory's myself but the all definitely do not look like there all the same type. But like @nabokovfan87 said it's hard to tell from the pics. If you phone is like mine with a horrible camera I'll back up a bit from the glass and let the camera adjust for a few seconds before I take the pics 

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On 1/9/2023 at 5:45 PM, Colu said:

Bottom 3 pictures are  juvenile Cory's breed in his tank from his adult Cory I think they look similar to bronze Cory's

Yes. I know they don't look just like the adults but they are around 5 weeks old. They have just started to get that bronze color to them. I will try to get better pictures of the parents but they scare very easily so it's difficult. 

On 1/9/2023 at 5:45 PM, Colu said:

Bottom 3 pictures are  juvenile Cory's breed in his tank from his adult Cory I think they look similar to bronze Cory's

 

On 1/9/2023 at 5:42 PM, TeeJay said:

Yes I only have paleatus Cory's myself but the all definitely do not look like there all the same type. But like @nabokovfan87 said it's hard to tell from the pics. If you phone is like mine with a horrible camera I'll back up a bit from the glass and let the camera adjust for a few seconds before I take the pics 

I know the bottom pictures don't look just like the adults. They are around 5 weeks old and they have just started to get that bronze color to them. I will try to get better pictures of the parents but they scare very easily so it's difficult. 

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On 1/9/2023 at 5:19 PM, Gregs_Gal said:

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This one might need to be dewormed or something. Does the front fin look deformed in person or is this camera trickery?

I am trying to grab a picture of mine for comparison sake just to illustrate a few things.

These are "black Venezuelan" Corydoras which are a black color form of the Schulztei Corydoras.
Notice the red on the top how it extends across the length of the body.  The second big factor here is the actual length of the body.  These ones are pretty chonky.  The female, center in the first photo, is pushing 4+ inches.
https://www.planetcatfish.com/common/species.php?task=&species_id=34

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In terms of others, let me try to find a post which might be helpful here.  You have very short corydoras, but they do look chunky.

Bronze 'Aenus' Corydoras: https://www.planetcatfish.com/common/species.php?species_id=51
Note: this is a very amazing photo with some pretty intense coloration.  could be another species, but it is tagged as a bronze species. I'll attach two here to give you an idea of the variation / confusion.  I think this is what you have.
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Proper Venezuelan Corydoras.  Ken has some as well as a few others here.  He has raised and posted fry photos you can use to compare.
https://www.planetcatfish.com/common/species.php?species_id=716
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On 1/9/2023 at 6:58 PM, nabokovfan87 said:

This one might need to be dewormed or something. Does the front fin look deformed in person or is this camera trickery?

I am trying to grab a picture of mine for comparison sake just to illustrate a few things.

These are "black Venezuelan" Corydoras which are a black color form of the Schulztei Corydoras.
Notice the red on the top how it extends across the length of the body.  The second big factor here is the actual length of the body.  These ones are pretty chonky.  The female, center in the first photo, is pushing 4+ inches.
https://www.planetcatfish.com/common/species.php?task=&species_id=34

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In terms of others, let me try to find a post which might be helpful here.  You have very short corydoras, but they do look chunky.

Bronze 'Aenus' Corydoras: https://www.planetcatfish.com/common/species.php?species_id=51
Note: this is a very amazing photo with some pretty intense coloration.  could be another species, but it is tagged as a bronze species. I'll attach two here to give you an idea of the variation / confusion.  I think this is what you have.
Mystery-Corydora-Small-6.png.87f411f60eb362f5d293c76967af97bd.png19.jpg.3f172f787e591b3df7bdd935a364265f.jpg

Proper Venezuelan Corydoras.  Ken has some as well as a few others here.  He has raised and posted fry photos you can use to compare.
https://www.planetcatfish.com/common/species.php?species_id=716
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She came like that from my LFS. She seems to be just fine though. I believe she is full of eggs again. The other ones aren't as fat as her. 

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On 1/9/2023 at 6:21 PM, Gregs_Gal said:

She came like that from my LFS. She seems to be just fine though. I believe she is full of eggs again. The other ones aren't as fat as her. 

Something to watch for sure.  I would want to see that fin regenerate a bit and make sure she's recovering.  If not, potentially drop in meds.  I waited almost 2 years to treat my corydoras for worms.  It was a lot of observation and I'm glad I did when I did.  they are behaving a lot more like themselves after the treatment took place.  Whatever caused it, I'm thankful to see the big female out and about now.

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On 1/9/2023 at 6:58 PM, nabokovfan87 said:

This one might need to be dewormed or something. Does the front fin look deformed in person or is this camera trickery?

I am trying to grab a picture of mine for comparison sake just to illustrate a few things.

These are "black Venezuelan" Corydoras which are a black color form of the Schulztei Corydoras.
Notice the red on the top how it extends across the length of the body.  The second big factor here is the actual length of the body.  These ones are pretty chonky.  The female, center in the first photo, is pushing 4+ inches.
https://www.planetcatfish.com/common/species.php?task=&species_id=34

20221231_130701.JPG.965054e12c64c1d82263c755967e8ba2.JPG.790a23da8070b2d804a66980e78db549.JPG20221202_112905.JPG.d7c744fda91b4104ae208dd81b487417.JPG.7fc839691f9111de0ef75e184950a82c.JPG

In terms of others, let me try to find a post which might be helpful here.  You have very short corydoras, but they do look chunky.

Bronze 'Aenus' Corydoras: https://www.planetcatfish.com/common/species.php?species_id=51
Note: this is a very amazing photo with some pretty intense coloration.  could be another species, but it is tagged as a bronze species. I'll attach two here to give you an idea of the variation / confusion.  I think this is what you have.
Mystery-Corydora-Small-6.png.87f411f60eb362f5d293c76967af97bd.png19.jpg.3f172f787e591b3df7bdd935a364265f.jpg

Proper Venezuelan Corydoras.  Ken has some as well as a few others here.  He has raised and posted fry photos you can use to compare.
https://www.planetcatfish.com/common/species.php?species_id=716
s-l500.jpg.d94ff360bba3b37ae5491bde9bc4250a.jpg

The male looks a lot like the bronze ones you posted the pictures of. Thank you so much for your help! I truly appreciate it! 

On 1/9/2023 at 7:25 PM, nabokovfan87 said:

Something to watch for sure.  I would want to see that fin regenerate a bit and make sure she's recovering.  If not, potentially drop in meds.  I waited almost 2 years to treat my corydoras for worms.  It was a lot of observation and I'm glad I did when I did.  they are behaving a lot more like themselves after the treatment took place.  Whatever caused it, I'm thankful to see the big female out and about now.

For sure!!! What did you use to worm yours? I should probably do it. I have had them almost a year now. She has laid eggs twice already and I'm thinking the 3rd time will happen soon.  

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On 1/9/2023 at 6:34 PM, nabokovfan87 said:

If you can, try to take some photos backed off a bit, focused a bit sharper and so we can see the whole body on the sides of the fish.

Especially the first few photos it's really difficult to see the shape due to the focus / blur.

Most "green corydoras" usually means one of two things...

emerald green or salt + Pepper corydoras

Emerald Green:
image.jpeg.bd8ee884ad4d8e737f0d4039879548c8.jpeg

These guys are easy to tell because of the defined snout and the defined large size.  Of corydoras species, these ones do get bigger, broader, and sort of remind me of Arnold Schwarzenegger so to speak.

Peppered Cory (Corydoras Paleatus):  These guys do stay small and do like cooler temps. Very similar to panda.
Cory - Peppered Paleatus Cory Catfish - Arizona Aquatic Gardens

These ones look like @Ken Burke's Venezuelan (actual Venezuelan) corydoras fry.

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had to get the ol’ way-back machine out.the first picture could be venezuelanus  

 

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On 1/9/2023 at 7:19 PM, Gregs_Gal said:

Ok I think I got some better pictures.... the small Cory's are their babies. They hatched on Dec. 3rd so they are just over 5 weeks old. 

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They look similar to the Black Cory I have. Mine are darker on top behind the dorsal fin and on their belly than yours. They are a hybrid so no doubt there will be variations.

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They all look like perfectly normal, healthy green (AKA bronze) cories of various ages - Corydoras aeneus.  Emerald cories - new name change to Corydoras splendens,  old name was Brochis splendens has that longer nose, gets slightly larger, but the easiest way to tell them from green/bronzes before your brain gets used to the nose length, is to count the dorsal fin rays.  Aeneus have less than 10, splendens have 11 or more - longer name (more letters) has more rays is an easy memory crutch.

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On 1/9/2023 at 3:11 PM, Fish Folk said:

Bottom three look totally different from top three photos. Top three might be Corydoras aeneus (Bronze Corys), but the bottom three … I’m not sure.

 

On 1/9/2023 at 3:18 PM, Ninjoma said:

The bottom ones kinda look like the Venezuelan orange corys I've seen at my lfs. Just googling them now, it looks like Venezuelan orange corys are a variant of bronze corys. So that seems to add up. 

 

On 1/9/2023 at 5:34 PM, nabokovfan87 said:

If you can, try to take some photos backed off a bit, focused a bit sharper and so we can see the whole body on the sides of the fish.

Especially the first few photos it's really difficult to see the shape due to the focus / blur.

Most "green corydoras" usually means one of two things...

emerald green or salt + Pepper corydoras

Emerald Green:
image.jpeg.bd8ee884ad4d8e737f0d4039879548c8.jpeg

These guys are easy to tell because of the defined snout and the defined large size.  Of corydoras species, these ones do get bigger, broader, and sort of remind me of Arnold Schwarzenegger so to speak.

Peppered Cory (Corydoras Paleatus):  These guys do stay small and do like cooler temps. Very similar to panda.
Cory - Peppered Paleatus Cory Catfish - Arizona Aquatic Gardens

These ones look like @Ken Burke's Venezuelan (actual Venezuelan) corydoras fry.

 

On 1/9/2023 at 5:42 PM, TeeJay said:

Yes I only have paleatus Cory's myself but the all definitely do not look like there all the same type. But like @nabokovfan87 said it's hard to tell from the pics. If you phone is like mine with a horrible camera I'll back up a bit from the glass and let the camera adjust for a few seconds before I take the pics 

 

On 1/9/2023 at 5:45 PM, Colu said:

Bottom 3 pictures are  juvenile Cory's breed in his tank from his adult Cory I think they look similar to bronze Cory's

 

On 1/10/2023 at 11:57 AM, Odd Duck said:

They all look like perfectly normal, healthy green (AKA bronze) cories of various ages - Corydoras aeneus.  Emerald cories - new name change to Corydoras splendens,  old name was Brochis splendens has that longer nose, gets slightly larger, but the easiest way to tell them from green/bronzes before your brain gets used to the nose length, is to count the dorsal fin rays.  Aeneus have less than 10, splendens have 11 or more - longer name (more letters) has more rays is an easy memory crutch.

Thank you so much for letting me know for certain! I truly appreciate it! 

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