Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted November 8, 2022 Author Share Posted November 8, 2022 On 11/7/2022 at 7:26 PM, Colu said: Flashing can be caused ammonia you could have had another spike I would test then do a water change if you have any ammonia @Chick-In-Of-TheSea I’m changing 25% water every day and dosing the full tank volume w/ prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 On 11/8/2022 at 12:31 AM, Chick-In-Of-TheSea said: I’m changing 25% water every day and dosing the full tank volume w/ prime. I would up the water changes to 50% a day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted November 8, 2022 Author Share Posted November 8, 2022 On 11/7/2022 at 7:34 PM, Colu said: I would up the water changes to 50% a day Will do. Thank you 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted November 8, 2022 Author Share Posted November 8, 2022 Took an ammonia reading before the 50% water change. It was zero. Hmph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 (edited) On 11/8/2022 at 7:30 PM, Chick-In-Of-TheSea said: Took an ammonia reading before the 50% water change. It was zero. Hmph. The flashing could be because of damage to the Gills caused by the previous ammonia spike Edited November 8, 2022 by Colu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted November 8, 2022 Author Share Posted November 8, 2022 I will keep doing daily water changes staying at level 1 salt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted November 9, 2022 Author Share Posted November 9, 2022 I gave the guy some of this. It says it is helpful when medicating. Who knows, maybe it will be beneficial to him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted November 11, 2022 Author Share Posted November 11, 2022 Improvement. Flashing has stopped. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahi27 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 This disease is a monster. Everybody seems to be on the mend except the pseudomugils, so I moved them to a qt tank. They have a lot of fin damage but I think most of it is probably aggression from being in an overcrowded tank (remember I had consolidated a couple populations to reduce total number of gallons needing to be medicated). The couple who had clear external damage from the columnaris are still healing little by little. I am just keeping them in clean water for now with daily water changes. No salt. We'll see how they do. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 (edited) On 11/11/2022 at 4:38 PM, Mahi27 said: This disease is a monster. Everybody seems to be on the mend except the pseudomugils, so I moved them to a qt tank. They have a lot of fin damage but I think most of it is probably aggression from being in an overcrowded tank (remember I had consolidated a couple populations to reduce total number of gallons needing to be medicated). The couple who had clear external damage from the columnaris are still healing little by little. I am just keeping them in clean water for now with daily water changes. No salt. We'll see how they do. If it's fin damage caused by aggression I would add a small amount of aquarium salt 1 table for 3 gallons just with the pseudomugils to provent secondary bacteria fin rot if there fin are quite bad Edited November 12, 2022 by Colu 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted November 16, 2022 Author Share Posted November 16, 2022 Here’s the guy. Slow progress is better than no progress. He is very interactive with me also. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahi27 Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 He does look better. I admire the amount of dedication and care you're providing this one little tetra. Lol. I think he'll pull through. My pseudomugils are doing a lot better. The fin tearing had to be aggression-caused because as soon as I moved them into quarantine they have almost all healed up. Unfortunately, the two that showed external injuries from columnaris did not make it and died shortly after the transition. I have 9 or 10 left out of an original school of 14. Could be worse. But it does seem to confirm my suspicion that once a fish has anything worse than scale damage, there's no turning back, even if the wounds start to improve. 😕 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted November 16, 2022 Author Share Posted November 16, 2022 (edited) On 11/16/2022 at 1:58 PM, Mahi27 said: He does look better. I admire the amount of dedication and care you're providing this one little tetra. Lol. I think he'll pull through. My pseudomugils are doing a lot better. The fin tearing had to be aggression-caused because as soon as I moved them into quarantine they have almost all healed up. Unfortunately, the two that showed external injuries from columnaris did not make it and died shortly after the transition. I have 9 or 10 left out of an original school of 14. Could be worse. But it does seem to confirm my suspicion that once a fish has anything worse than scale damage, there's no turning back, even if the wounds start to improve. 😕 Sorry you had some losses. At least it wasn't a whole tank wipe, and as I recall you had a lot of tanks affected, actually. On 11/16/2022 at 1:58 PM, Mahi27 said: He does look better. I admire the amount of dedication and care you're providing this one little tetra. Lol. I think he'll pull through. Thank you. ❤️ Even though he has showed symptoms, he had never "acted sick" - he's always been high energy, social, eager to eat. He did demonstrate flashing for a period of time, but he's never gotten to a point (lethargy) where I was worried he would meet the end. These black neons are super resilient. I think it might be soon time to move him into the "recovery unit" which is a snail/shrimp tank. They cannot get columnaris, but I think he's past that anyway. I think what I see now are the scars that it leaves behind, and they keep improving. Edited November 16, 2022 by Chick-In-Of-TheSea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfish Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 I use that Daphnia with my Betta. It was something he would eat when he would not take the floating pellets. One bottle goes a long way. My other fish get a treat now also. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabokovfan87 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 I feel like an idiot, but trying to dose kanaplex and I can't get the directions straight. 😞 Dosing it every 48 hours. I know you have been going through it with all the treatments and I just wanted to say nice work @Chick-In-Of-TheSea it's not fun to deal with severe gram negative diseases. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted November 18, 2022 Author Share Posted November 18, 2022 On 11/17/2022 at 7:59 PM, nabokovfan87 said: I feel like an idiot, but trying to dose kanaplex and I can't get the directions straight. 😞 Dosing it every 48 hours. I know you have been going through it with all the treatments and I just wanted to say nice work @Chick-In-Of-TheSea it's not fun to deal with severe gram negative diseases. Thanks. You are treating fin rot in a swordtail right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabokovfan87 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 On 11/17/2022 at 5:05 PM, Chick-In-Of-TheSea said: Thanks. You are treating fin rot in a swordtail right? Yeah. Tank is finally clear enough to take photos and stuff. I did 2 days of erythromycin + salt. and today is day 2 of kanaplex + salt (ran out of erythromycin). Meds seem to be helping, but it's my tank with the pandas and grace the shark and I just don't want to see it pop on fry or other fish in my tanks. I have a male in that tank I need to move to the black corydoras tank and so it's the type of situation where I need to do what I can to clear it out. It's very, very, very likely damage and stress from shipping and new water parameters, but we'll see how things develop. I see improvement, but I fully expect to need 3 full treatments right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted November 22, 2022 Author Share Posted November 22, 2022 (edited) I started a drip acc to move the guy to recovery unit. 10 minutes into it I realized I have a 4 degree temp difference whereas I used to have none. I’m now keeping recovery unit lower due to shrimps in there. So I panicked and cancelled the process, worried he’d wind up with ick or something due to the change. So he’s back in the qt tote again. 🫤 Edited November 22, 2022 by Chick-In-Of-TheSea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted November 26, 2022 Author Share Posted November 26, 2022 Oh my gosh, the guy looks so good today! He should be named by now. I will call him Roy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 On 11/26/2022 at 1:52 PM, Chick-In-Of-TheSea said: Oh my gosh, the guy looks so good today! He should be named by now. I will call him Roy. He looking a lot better he should be ready to move to the main tank soon 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted November 29, 2022 Author Share Posted November 29, 2022 Roy enjoyed a few bloodworms this morning. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arielroxi Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 I have an 80gal tank that I put 10 guppies in the make sure things were safe before I added my more expensive fish. I think the guppies have this columnaris. I lost two and just started the med trio before I noticed the "scaly patch" on one of the guppies. I just lost another today. I don't want to treat the 80gal with the Jungle Fungus and Kanaplex. I can move them to a 5 gal tank but I'm wondering if my 80gal is now not safe for the new fish which I have in a 10gal and they are doing fine so far. Thanks for the help. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 On 12/1/2022 at 10:47 PM, arielroxi said: I have an 80gal tank that I put 10 guppies in the make sure things were safe before I added my more expensive fish. I think the guppies have this columnaris. I lost two and just started the med trio before I noticed the "scaly patch" on one of the guppies. I just lost another today. I don't want to treat the 80gal with the Jungle Fungus and Kanaplex. I can move them to a 5 gal tank but I'm wondering if my 80gal is now not safe for the new fish which I have in a 10gal and they are doing fine so far. Thanks for the help. You can move your guppies to the 5 gallon and treat them columnaris can survive without a host for up to 30 days in a your tank so I wouldn't put fish back in your main tank for at least 5 weeks to be on the safe side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arielroxi Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 Wow. I have 5 Bleeding heart and 5 Dwarf Neon rainbow in a 10 gal. Will they be ok for 5 weeks. I do have a 30gal with about 10 kubati and 8 harlequin if I need to move them to a bigger tank. Thank you so much for your quick response. I hope I can get the medication in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 On 12/1/2022 at 11:11 PM, arielroxi said: Wow. I have 5 Bleeding heart and 5 Dwarf Neon rainbow in a 10 gal. Will they be ok for 5 weeks. I do have a 30gal with about 10 kubati and 8 harlequin if I need to move them to a bigger tank. Thank you so much for your quick response. I hope I can get the medication in time. I think they will be fine for 5 weeks just keep a close eye on your water parameters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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