Mmiller2001 Posted December 5, 2022 Author Share Posted December 5, 2022 Ordered the fontanus and an African water fern. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jungle Fan Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 (edited) @anewbie @Mmiller2001 @Odd Duck I keep my tank at 78.6 F and both my Christmas moss Vesicularia montagnei, and my Phoenix moss Fissidens fontanus have no issues and thrive, as do both my Amano, and Blue Dream Shrimp, as well as my Cardinals, Rummynoses, Otocinclus, and Bolivian Rams. I too have read the articles about the lower temperatures, and those that mentioned that mosses don't like light but if you go to my 75 gallon tank journal you will see that my Phoenix moss mound on the highest part of the stump has actually reached the surface and the Christmas moss is located on a branch next to it. I chose those locations because I learnt from a friend whose tank had a similar set up, and because I had used it before in aquascapes. I actually have to trim at least some of my Christmas moss back every 4 -5 weeks, as a matter of fact I have given away so much of it that I now can no longer find takers. I have probably had to discard about 25 times the amount I originally bought so far. When you do trim moss always have the net ready otherwise you'll spend hours tracking back moss to prevent it from growing where you don't want it. Edited December 6, 2022 by Jungle Fan typo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmiller2001 Posted December 6, 2022 Author Share Posted December 6, 2022 On 12/6/2022 at 12:00 AM, Jungle Fan said: @anewbie @Mmiller2001 @Odd Duck I keep my tank at 78.6 F and both my Christmas moss Vesicularia montagnei, and my Phoenix moss Fissidens fontanus have no issues and thrive, as do both my Amano, and Blue Dream Shrimp, as well as my Cardinals, Rummynoses, Otocinclus, and Bolivian Rams. I too have read the articles about the lower temperatures, and those that mentioned that mosses don't like light but if you go to my 75 gallon tank journal you will see that my Phoenix moss mound on the highest part of the stump has actually reached the surface and the Christmas moss is located on a branch next to it. I chose those locations because I learnt from a friend whose tank had a similar set up, and because I had used it before in aquascapes. I actually have to trim at least some of my Christmas moss back every 4 -5 weeks, as a matter of fact I have given away so much of it that I now can no longer find takers. I have probably had to discard about 25 times the amount I originally bought so far. When you do trim moss always have the net ready otherwise you'll spend hours tracking back moss to prevent it from growing where you don't want it. Beautiful. I can't wait. Yeah, my Christmas moss dose really well,.even more so now and is starting to become the plague honestly. I'm almost ready to remove it 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jungle Fan Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 @Mmiller2001 stick with it, it takes more maintenance than the Phoenix moss but the looks are very rewarding. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSwissAquarist Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Just read the coolest bunch of ‘articles’ in a long time… I’ll come along for any future rides 😎! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSwissAquarist Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Do you breed many fish @Mmiller2001? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmiller2001 Posted December 6, 2022 Author Share Posted December 6, 2022 On 12/6/2022 at 9:38 AM, TheSwissAquarist said: Do you breed many fish @Mmiller2001? I don't, but randomly have more harlequin rasboras and cherry barbs. And I started with 3 Apistos and now have 5 even after losing my prize male. So I guess I have 2 of his son's. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSwissAquarist Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 On 12/6/2022 at 5:53 PM, Mmiller2001 said: don't, but randomly have more harlequin rasboras Pretty hard to breed 😳👏! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmiller2001 Posted December 6, 2022 Author Share Posted December 6, 2022 In the summertime, my water is warmer, and I top off with RO that can be much cooler than the tank. I will also water change without heating the water. I think that triggered the spawn. I think I posted a video of it somewhere in here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSwissAquarist Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 On 12/6/2022 at 6:03 PM, Mmiller2001 said: RO Do you use rainwater or a mechanical unit? My RO water is snow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmiller2001 Posted December 6, 2022 Author Share Posted December 6, 2022 On 12/6/2022 at 10:24 AM, TheSwissAquarist said: Do you use rainwater or a mechanical unit? My RO water is snow! Mechanical, doesn't snow here enough 😁 Or rain. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd Duck Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 On 12/6/2022 at 1:00 AM, Jungle Fan said: @anewbie @Mmiller2001 @Odd Duck I keep my tank at 78.6 F and both my Christmas moss Vesicularia montagnei, and my Phoenix moss Fissidens fontanus have no issues and thrive, as do both my Amano, and Blue Dream Shrimp, as well as my Cardinals, Rummynoses, Otocinclus, and Bolivian Rams. I too have read the articles about the lower temperatures, and those that mentioned that mosses don't like light but if you go to my 75 gallon tank journal you will see that my Phoenix moss mound on the highest part of the stump has actually reached the surface and the Christmas moss is located on a branch next to it. I chose those locations because I learnt from a friend whose tank had a similar set up, and because I had used it before in aquascapes. I actually have to trim at least some of my Christmas moss back every 4 -5 weeks, as a matter of fact I have given away so much of it that I now can no longer find takers. I have probably had to discard about 25 times the amount I originally bought so far. When you do trim moss always have the net ready otherwise you'll spend hours tracking back moss to prevent it from growing where you don't want it. My geppii right at the highest branch is doing the best, too. Low light I think is helpful in regards to decreasing algae growth, but I agree that the moss likes that light. It definitely likes flow, too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmiller2001 Posted December 7, 2022 Author Share Posted December 7, 2022 Will a Paradise fish kill cherry barbs or Harlequin Rasboras? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minanora Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 I haven't kept the species. Those are beautiful fish though. I read that a school of cherry barbs or larger tiger barbs is okay but you may see some aggression on both sides. Space is key, the paradise fish will claim a pretty large territory and is not happy with sharing food. I have harlequins, they are fast, but I'm not sure that they'd thrive while being bullied into a small area. I think they would spend a lot of time hiding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anewbie Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 On 12/8/2022 at 9:08 AM, Minanora said: I haven't kept the species. Those are beautiful fish though. I read that a school of cherry barbs or larger tiger barbs is okay but you may see some aggression on both sides. Space is key, the paradise fish will claim a pretty large territory and is not happy with sharing food. I have harlequins, they are fast, but I'm not sure that they'd thrive while being bullied into a small area. I think they would spend a lot of time hiding. Can you quantify 'large territory' thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minanora Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 On 12/8/2022 at 8:33 AM, anewbie said: Can you quantify 'large territory' thanks. Like 4sqft I guess. Half of a 75g, maybe. At least I think that's a large space. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmiller2001 Posted December 8, 2022 Author Share Posted December 8, 2022 I took a second and decided not to get one. They are so awesome, but yeah...too risky. Thank you both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmiller2001 Posted December 9, 2022 Author Share Posted December 9, 2022 Water change day is about to being. I tested to see where I'm at and NO3 is still at 25 ppm with PO4 around 4.5 to 5 ppm. My targets were 15,4,15. I'm going to move to 10,5,25.8. I will also begin front loading. Green dust algae is continuing, but no new green spot algae. I reduced light by 10% and hopefully the drop in nitrates will stop the dust algae. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmiller2001 Posted December 9, 2022 Author Share Posted December 9, 2022 (edited) I'm also raising my CSM+B to .45ppm Fe as proxy. Edited December 9, 2022 by Mmiller2001 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmiller2001 Posted December 9, 2022 Author Share Posted December 9, 2022 I'm hoping this is just transition damage. Like I've mentioned, I'm a complete noob with these types of plants. Thoughts? I'm thinkin all my bolbitus mini are goners. I've never seen plants turn black and melt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd Duck Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Oh, Bolbitis, why must you be so fickle? The black leaves may spawn a bunch of baby plants, so I don’t give up until they dissolve. That may take weeks to months before the baby plants are worth looking at, so you may want to move them to a holding tank. All the ferns besides Java fern can be very fickle. Pretty much all the Java fern variants are much sturdier and more reliable. They can melt but are far less likely to melt than other ferns. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabokovfan87 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 On 12/9/2022 at 5:12 PM, Odd Duck said: All the ferns besides Java fern can be very fickle. You can say that again.... one of my favorite plants hates me! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmiller2001 Posted December 10, 2022 Author Share Posted December 10, 2022 On 12/9/2022 at 6:12 PM, Odd Duck said: Oh, Bolbitis, why must you be so fickle? The black leaves may spawn a bunch of baby plants, so I don’t give up until they dissolve. That may take weeks to months before the baby plants are worth looking at, so you may want to move them to a holding tank. All the ferns besides Java fern can be very fickle. Pretty much all the Java fern variants are much sturdier and more reliable. They can melt but are far less likely to melt than other ferns. Let's hope so, they are pretty much all black at this point. The Trident is starting to liven up. Not worried there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minanora Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 I only have bolbitis in one of my tanks and it's not thriving, but it's growing very slowly, in the chili ruins. It's been there since day 1. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmiller2001 Posted December 12, 2022 Author Share Posted December 12, 2022 You know, it's really getting frustrating I have to order everything online. Apparently, no one offers Fuji stone in Albuquerque. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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