TJ _isme Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 I have a 29 gallon tank full of guppies, they have all been super healthy until now I found 529 of them had puffy white lesions and I am prettY sure it is ick, i was only able to get pictures of one of them, sorry for the low quality images Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony s Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 Ich looks more like salt grains evenly distributed. That looks more like columnaris @Colu going to need your water parameters, temp. tank mates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lefty o Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 thats not ich. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tike Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 Not ich... interested in your tank parameters. Can you post them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony s Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 One more thought, since it’s not ich, you’re going to need to start a treatment relatively quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony s Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 You’re going to need kanaplex or maracyn2 for treatment. I’m sure colu has other instructions as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 On 5/18/2024 at 2:52 AM, TJ _isme said: I have a 29 gallon tank full of guppies, they have all been super healthy until now I found 529 of them had puffy white lesions and I am prettY sure it is ick, i was only able to get pictures of one of them, sorry for the low quality images That not ich Could be columnaris that's a gram negative bacterial infections that spreads more quickly at temperatures over 75 and can kill in 24hr to 7 days depending on the strain the most effective treatment is kanaplex and jungal fungus clear fizz tabs containing nitrofurazone following this treatment plan start treating straight away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ _isme Posted May 18 Author Share Posted May 18 I’ll check my parameters in a minute but I found another guppie who had it Water parameters: ph:7.8. Hardness I believe it’s pretty neutral (I don’t have tests but the tap water is hard but I have a filter that is sopposed to make it soft so it doesn’t damage the pipes but it need to be replaced so the hardness is neutral to hard) temp: 77 F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony s Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 The hardness is a good guppy thing. Assuming you’re softening filter doesn’t make it too soft. If it is columnaris it may have spread. So maybe you just treat their whole tank without quarantine. Hopefully curing everyone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ _isme Posted May 18 Author Share Posted May 18 This is what I plan on doing, I thought it was ick and I probably would have lost all my guppies without the advice from everybody, thanks all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guupy42 Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 https://guppyadvisor.com/columnaris-in-guppy/ I agree with the other on Columnaris. I noticed that in all three pictures of the second guppy, his mouth is open. I believe that a stuck mouth is one of the signs of Columnaris. The website I linked above say that "In columnaris guppy fish mouth appears swollen, scaly, and discolored. This infection spreads internally and externally." Can your fish still move their jaws and eat? When one of my guppies passed away from Columnaris, it was lethargic in the morning. In the afternoon that same day, his mouth was stuck open, and he couldn't get any food during feeding time that day. If your guppies are still active and eating, then they will be in a better state than mine was in, especially since you are going to treat them. The website also talks about more symptoms and causes, so it might be worth checking out if you want to learn more about Columnaris. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ _isme Posted May 19 Author Share Posted May 19 On 5/18/2024 at 7:40 PM, Guupy42 said: https://guppyadvisor.com/columnaris-in-guppy/ I agree with the other on Columnaris. I noticed that in all three pictures of the second guppy, his mouth is open. I believe that a stuck mouth is one of the signs of Columnaris. The website I linked above say that "In columnaris guppy fish mouth appears swollen, scaly, and discolored. This infection spreads internally and externally." Can your fish still move their jaws and eat? When one of my guppies passed away from Columnaris, it was lethargic in the morning. In the afternoon that same day, his mouth was stuck open, and he couldn't get any food during feeding time that day. If your guppies are still active and eating, then they will be in a better state than mine was in, especially since you are going to treat them. The website also talks about more symptoms and causes, so it might be worth checking out if you want to learn more about Columnaris. Thanks this helps a lot, the infected ones are very lathargic, they bacicly only lay on the bottom of the tank and they don’t eat 😞 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ _isme Posted May 19 Author Share Posted May 19 (Also I don’t know if this is worth mentioning but the only tank mates are guppies) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ _isme Posted May 19 Author Share Posted May 19 Here are some more images of another infected guppy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guupy42 Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 (edited) Poor guppies. I hope they get better. The others haven't mentioned it yet, but you will probably want to quarantine the sick guppies. Columnaris is contagious. As long as you have a proper quarantine tank and they are strong enough. You don't want to stress anyone out and make their condition worse than it already is. We'll see what the others say about quarantining your fish. @Tony s, @Colu? Edited May 19 by Guupy42 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony s Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 On 5/19/2024 at 1:44 PM, Guupy42 said: Columnaris is contagious Right. At this point I’d do the whole tank. Or they could end up chasing it around 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 The best course of action is treat all your fish in the main tank as soon as possible 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ _isme Posted May 20 Author Share Posted May 20 On 5/19/2024 at 12:54 PM, Tony s said: Right. At this point I’d do the whole tank. Or they could end up chasing it around On 5/19/2024 at 12:54 PM, Tony s said: Right. At this point I’d do the whole tank. Or they could end up chasing it around Thank you, I am trying to get the medicine as soon as possible, once I get it I will treat the whole tank to make sure it’s gone👍 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ _isme Posted May 23 Author Share Posted May 23 (edited) On 5/18/2024 at 1:14 AM, Colu said: Wouldn’t it be over dosing if I used the jungle tabs every day? @Colu would it be overdosing if I used the jungle tabs everyday? Edited May 23 by TJ _isme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 (edited) On 5/23/2024 at 1:06 AM, TJ _isme said: @Colu would it be overdosing if I used the jungle tabs everyday? The amount of nitrofurazone in jungal fungus clear fizz tabs is under dosed so dosing it daily isn't going to overdose your fish Edited May 23 by Colu Stupid autocorrect 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ _isme Posted May 23 Author Share Posted May 23 On 5/22/2024 at 7:21 PM, Colu said: The amount of nitrofurazone in jungal fungus clear fizz tabs is under dosed some dosing it daily isn't going to overdose your fish Thank you this helps a lot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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