Desktop Aquatics Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 This is my first attempt at breeding any fish but I did get my apistogramma 'blue steel' to spawn and have started raising the fry on their own. The female is doing a great job and thus far none of the other fish in the tank have been bothering them at all. Is there any extra I should be doing? I am feeding baby brine shrimp and feeding repashy spawn and grow sparingly. I planned on extra doing extra water changes every other day instead of my usual twice a week. P.S. extremely new to the hobby started 6 months ago very excited and nervous 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountaintoppufferkeeper Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 (edited) So cool. Congrats. Extra water changes are something i occasionally do and i definately change out filter media more often when feeding live baby brine. I just recently had my first "krib"spawn, P.subocellus moanda , and left the fry with the parents for 2 weeks. I generally leave fry and parents together until the parents seem disinterested in guarding the fry as closely. My bolivian rams quit protecting at about that two week time and I should have pulled the fry as soon as I noticed the behavioral change. My regani pike took 60 days to stop guarding I pulled the majority of fry then; i think its more parental behavior dependant for my tanks. The only other thing I do with cichlids is feed a variety for the adults while guarding as well. My cichlid parents seem to get the fry eating whatever they eat and that saves a lot of hassle later on. Early pulled fry for me were picky eaters with lower survival rates and slower growth. Edited September 8, 2021 by mountaintoppufferkeeper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the other Irene Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 yeah, more apistos. I pulled my fry at 2 wks. for the 2nd batch I have I going to wait 4 wks to see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabby Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 On 8/16/2021 at 2:14 AM, Kylec said: This is my first attempt at breeding any fish but I did get my apistogramma 'blue steel' to spawn and have started raising the fry on their own. The female is doing a great job and thus far none of the other fish in the tank have been bothering them at all. Is there any extra I should be doing? I am feeding baby brine shrimp and feeding repashy spawn and grow sparingly. I planned on extra doing extra water changes every other day instead of my usual twice a week. P.S. extremely new to the hobby started 6 months ago very excited and nervous Just from that snapshot of your tank, it looks like you’re doing everything perfectly. I never fed mine baby brine so I can’t advise if you need to do anything extra while doing that. Just make sure you’re feeding the adults a bunch of good foods as well, cuz it took a lot of energy for the female to produce all those eggs. Congrats! Enjoy the experience! I bred my apistos for the first time around the 6 month mark of me getting into the hobby, and it’s an awesome experience. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desktop Aquatics Posted August 16, 2021 Author Share Posted August 16, 2021 Thanks for all the tips! Yah I was already feeding the tank baby brine anyways but good to know. The parents seem very attentive, I’m truly just amazed how exciting it is, I was genuinely shaking when I saw the fry and I’ve never been more observant with my tank than I am now. Being only 5-6 months in I honestly didn’t think it would happen this fast or easy. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desktop Aquatics Posted August 18, 2021 Author Share Posted August 18, 2021 On 8/15/2021 at 3:26 PM, the other Irene said: yeah, more apistos. I pulled my fry at 2 wks. for the 2nd batch I have I going to wait 4 wks to see what happens. a little update, have decided I will not have room for another grow out tank. so, I will be monitoring my only tank extremely closely and hoping for the best really... If there are problems might have to rethink the lack of space and get creative. Not much has changed in 3 days but they fry are still with mom and are from what i can tell growing and feeding on the detritus in the tank 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the other Irene Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 there is a hang of back fluvial breeder box that works quite well. I have my mystery fry in there- i think they might be daisy's rice fish. I am growing them out there until they get bigger and I can put them in the fry tank. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desktop Aquatics Posted August 22, 2021 Author Share Posted August 22, 2021 Update! the fry are looking great, left everyone in the tank. looking for a new home for my corys as they are getting beat up by the male. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desktop Aquatics Posted August 25, 2021 Author Share Posted August 25, 2021 Cool video of fry feeding in the leaf litter and why it’s important to have detritus in your aquarium 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desktop Aquatics Posted September 7, 2021 Author Share Posted September 7, 2021 its been a couple weeks! still have my estimate is 15-25 fry that have good size to them. I'm expecting a couple more weeks before i can sell them to my local stores. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARMYVET Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 That is awesome!! Your doing great!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desktop Aquatics Posted September 9, 2021 Author Share Posted September 9, 2021 Nice video showing a few of the fry with mom 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desktop Aquatics Posted September 23, 2021 Author Share Posted September 23, 2021 (edited) Late 1 month update! Still counting 20 at a time but easily could be 25-30! They are still in with mom and dad as I do not have room for another tank at my house. Every other day water changes and frozen baby grime shrimp and bow adding spawn and grow rapashy 1x a week! All are looking pretty decent size and healthy Edited September 23, 2021 by Kylec 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desktop Aquatics Posted October 1, 2021 Author Share Posted October 1, 2021 (edited) Lots of growth a lot of color starting to show in some of these fry! Edited October 1, 2021 by Kylec 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desktop Aquatics Posted October 5, 2021 Author Share Posted October 5, 2021 Another post just to show the growth of these guys even over the weekend some have almost doubled! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desktop Aquatics Posted October 8, 2021 Author Share Posted October 8, 2021 Story of this pair is now on their second clutch!!! But this time I found them before they hatched! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desktop Aquatics Posted October 13, 2021 Author Share Posted October 13, 2021 Officially got wrigglers from spawn number 2! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desktop Aquatics Posted November 6, 2021 Author Share Posted November 6, 2021 First spawn are almost up to size! Watching these fry grow up has been an amazing experience probably have 1 more month to be sellable but I’ve grown quite fond of these little fish 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle murfitt Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Ughhhh! I've been waiting for a tank to cycle to get some double red agassizi and this thread is driving me nuts ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desktop Aquatics Posted November 8, 2021 Author Share Posted November 8, 2021 @Kyle murfitt its funny you say that because everyday I stare into this tank and am cursed that I only have space for the one at the moment. I dream of having at least a rack of breeding apisto pairs so I can understand your frustrations of patience. I will one day have that rack but not until I have a new home or apartment with more space! Be patient my friend you'll love the tank and the fish! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anewbie Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Do you know your water condition off hand (ph/gh/tds) for breeding these blue-steel. I can't remember if they are blackwater or clear water fish; though given how common they are in the hobby I suspect they are clear water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desktop Aquatics Posted November 9, 2021 Author Share Posted November 9, 2021 @anewbie my ph is 6.8, but I don’t remember my gh off the top of my head I remember it being surprisingly low for my area tho, I’m pretty sure they are clear water but have done great in my blackwater aquarium 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desktop Aquatics Posted December 6, 2021 Author Share Posted December 6, 2021 Sold my first batch today! Bitter sweet but also exciting to see how many survived to “adulthood”. I sold 34 from my first batch it was a lot more than I thought it would actually be! This also meant I had to take down my aquascape which now the tank looks bare again but I am excited to see it grow out again! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardedbillygoat1975 Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 It's a great feeling to see a project through like this. Congratulations! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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