Water Temperature with Planted Tanks

[Randall from Texas]

On 7/3/2021 at 8:38 PM, Acara Mom said:

Yes I started looking around for a list of plants for higher water temps. I posted a copy of a list from years ago but it sounded like someone knew what they were talking about. I’m going to gradually switch this tank out to some of those they listed and I have a few of them already. But it seems it doesn’t matter what I put in there until the algae situation is way improved. Hopefully, as I put many of these suggestions into action there will be some great improvementsBut it seems it doesn’t matter what I put in there until the algae situation is way improved. Hopefully, as I put many of these suggestions into action there will be some great improvements

Care to share that list, I've been meaning to do research instead of buying 1 of every plant.

[Fish Folk]

On 7/3/2021 at 9:44 PM, Acara Mom said:

My attraction to Central American/South American fish have kept me in warmer waters. 

Ditto. My cold-water fascination is Hydrophlox shiners... especially Rainbow Shiners.

 

[Acara Mom]

On 7/3/2021 at 9:36 PM, Fish Folk said:

We run about 17 planted tanks at present. In answer to @xXInkedPhoenixX our temperatures vary depending on the fish we’re keeping and breeding. Our no-heater, room-temp tanks (70-72°) tend to do better with plant growth, health, and propagation than those we keep at 80-87°. Amazon Swords do pretty well at high heat. Valisneria does so-so. I think one factor is that at higher temps, less gasses (CO2 / O2) can be dissolved in the water. I _think_ (chemists, please correct me) that this is the inverse of solids saturation: you dissolve salt or sugar more easily in hot water than cold water.... but you dissolve less gasses in warm water than cold water (which, parenthetically, is why cold water in the winter can hold dangerously too much gas... and why the Sage aquarists always advise you “rest your water” before adding — it’s for gasses to release from cold water). So, perhaps adding more aeration can slightly increase the dissolved gasses in an aquarium, and support better plant growth.

This tank is at about 84°-F.

It looks better from afar than up close. Root tabs under all plants (Val + Swords). I have 2x sponge filters and heavy additional aeration in the center.

This tank is a “cold tank” - stays between 68-70°. The Bronze Crypt and Val grows like crazy. Regularly, I take some out and sell or donate.

As for Rams, they should be Ok if kept down around 78°. If breeding, we keep them up around 81° or warmer. This tank was a Ram breeding tank. We kept it at around 85°.

I found certain plants melted away, while others adapted.

This one was run cold for very young goldfish. Wisteria grew like a JUNGLE in it.

So I don’t know... seems like there’s always a way to make things work...

Any info on raising rams I am a dry sponge trying to soak everything up to learn. They are so adorable! They just always look like they’re smiling!

[Fish Folk]

On 7/3/2021 at 9:50 PM, Acara Mom said:

Any info on raising rams I am a dry sponge trying to soak everything up to learn. They are so adorable! They just always look like they’re smiling!

Pour yourself a tall drink. Here you go:

 

[Acara Mom]

On 7/3/2021 at 9:36 PM, Fish Folk said:

We run about 17 planted tanks at present. In answer to @xXInkedPhoenixX our temperatures vary depending on the fish we’re keeping and breeding. Our no-heater, room-temp tanks (70-72°) tend to do better with plant growth, health, and propagation than those we keep at 80-87°. Amazon Swords do pretty well at high heat. Valisneria does so-so. I think one factor is that at higher temps, less gasses (CO2 / O2) can be dissolved in the water. I _think_ (chemists, please correct me) that this is the inverse of solids saturation: you dissolve salt or sugar more easily in hot water than cold water.... but you dissolve less gasses in warm water than cold water (which, parenthetically, is why cold water in the winter can hold dangerously too much gas... and why the Sage aquarists always advise you “rest your water” before adding — it’s for gasses to release from cold water). So, perhaps adding more aeration can slightly increase the dissolved gasses in an aquarium, and support better plant growth.

This tank is at about 84°-F.

It looks better from afar than up close. Root tabs under all plants (Val + Swords). I have 2x sponge filters and heavy additional aeration in the center.

This tank is a “cold tank” - stays between 68-70°. The Bronze Crypt and Val grows like crazy. Regularly, I take some out and sell or donate.

As for Rams, they should be Ok if kept down around 78°. If breeding, we keep them up around 81° or warmer. This tank was a Ram breeding tank. We kept it at around 85°.

I found certain plants melted away, while others adapted.

This one was run cold for very young goldfish. Wisteria grew like a JUNGLE in it.

So I don’t know... seems like there’s always a way to make things work...

Ps The comments on the CO2 line up with what they were talking about on the aqua Scaping video people

Edited July 4, 2021 by Acara Mom

[Acara Mom]

On 7/3/2021 at 9:48 PM, Randall from Texas said:

Care to share that list, I've been meaning to do research instead of buying 1 of every plant.

[Acara Mom]

You can tell it is an older post. I found another one with similar suggestions 

[anewbie]

This tank is 2 years old and I keep it at 78 degree; I get a little algae but nothing too bad:

Anyway i think it has been well establish in this thread that the temp bit causing algae is probably not accurate; I probably 'scrape' the glass once every 8 or 10 months. My live bearer tank is bit better since them swordtails and guppies eat algae. It looks a bit bare but there are actually around 14 fishes in there - see how many you can find 😉

 

 

Edited July 4, 2021 by anewbie

[Nana Finopolis]

I'm a weird one. I've decided that I really like algae. I let it grow just like my plants and just "prune" it once in awhile. One of my tanks is a little 10 gal. near a window. It's planted and has the prettiest fuzzy hair algae. I think the fish enjoy it also. They're always picking goodies out of it.

[Acara Mom]

On 7/5/2021 at 5:47 PM, Nana Finopolis said:

I'm a weird one. I've decided that I really like algae. I let it grow just like my plants and just "prune" it once in awhile. One of my tanks is a little 10 gal. near a window. It's planted and has the prettiest fuzzy hair algae. I think the fish enjoy it also. They're always picking goodies out of it.

I must say the algae on my wood looks really nice except for it concerns me about it spreading to other things. It does look like moss on my wood but I am going to probably scrub it off tomorrow. I checked my water parameters and my phosphorus is almost nonexistent, nitrates are at about nothing, ammonia not showing up on the chart either, pH is about 6.8 so I did not do a water change today but I think tomorrow I’m going to clean a few pieces off and tonight I’m going to do a little bitOf maintenance like some people have suggested just periodically trimming off some things. I think I’m gonna start with that Anubis! Good news is my fish are doing great! I did notice my fish are picking at a little bit of the algae in a couple areas. but not much 

Edited July 6, 2021 by Acara Mom

[Acara Mom]

On 7/3/2021 at 11:36 PM, anewbie said:

This tank is 2 years old and I keep it at 78 degree; I get a little algae but nothing too bad:

Anyway i think it has been well establish in this thread that the temp bit causing algae is probably not accurate; I probably 'scrape' the glass once every 8 or 10 months. My live bearer tank is bit better since them swordtails and guppies eat algae. It looks a bit bare but there are actually around 14 fishes in there - see how many you can find 😉

 

 

Where I got the list of things that cause algae was actually from Green Aqua. They have a video where they are looking at pictures of other peoples tanks and making comments. The people have listed their water parameters and temperature. Each time they saw one with a higher temperature they made a comment you’re going to have algae. So that’s where I got it. They have awesome tanks and are experts in their area. I am not high tech but like plants with my fish. I definitely lowered my lights. And I’m going to order some phosphate from seachem. Today, I just used the Aquarium Co-Op fertilizer   It is pretty balanced but I think I need more on a few areas so I supplement

Edited July 6, 2021 by Acara Mom