Whitecloud09 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Ok, I was going to get some nerites, but I thought to ask here to see if there was something else that I could have in here, it is a 10 gallon and the temp is about 73 degrees. Ph of 7.5 stable. Any thoughts? Thanks 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwcarlson Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Nerites are great for eating algae. But my vote for best clean-up crew is responsible feeding and/or your siphon. 🙂 What else is in the tank already? Or if it's not already setup, what's the theoretical future stocking? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony s Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 nerites, mystery snails, otocinclus (they need to be supplements with veggies). I have some otos, i have 2 mystery snails in every tank, except in my 75g where i have 25, they bred there But, yes, helpers do not take the place of regular cleaning 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitecloud09 Posted February 14 Author Share Posted February 14 On 2/14/2024 at 5:00 PM, jwcarlson said: Nerites are great for eating algae. But my vote for best clean-up crew is responsible feeding and/or your siphon. 🙂 What else is in the tank already? Or if it's not already setup, what's the theoretical future stocking? Oh my bad @jwcarlson, I have 6 white cloud minnows and live plants. It has been set up for like 2 months already cycled On 2/14/2024 at 5:01 PM, Tony s said: nerites, mystery snails, otocinclus (they need to be supplements with veggies). I have some otos, i have 2 mystery snails in every tank, except in my 75g where i have 25, they bred there But, yes, helpers do not take the place of regular cleaning Yea I know that but just wanted some helpers for in between water changes @Tony s @jwcarlson I did the fishless cycle btw How many nerites??? @Tony s @jwcarlson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllFishNoBrakes Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 I’d do 2 nerites if you’re going that way. I’m always a fan of Ramshorn snails. They can just get out of control if you overfeed. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitecloud09 Posted February 14 Author Share Posted February 14 On 2/14/2024 at 5:09 PM, AllFishNoBrakes said: I’d do 2 nerites if you’re going that way. I’m always a fan of Ramshorn snails. They can just get out of control if you overfeed. What do u mean by “out of control”? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllFishNoBrakes Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 As in they lay a ton of eggs and then they hatch and you have a ton of snails. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitecloud09 Posted February 14 Author Share Posted February 14 @AllFishNoBrakes Sorry typo 😁 On 2/14/2024 at 5:10 PM, AllFishNoBrakes said: As in they lay a ton of eggs and then they hatch and you have a ton of snails. Oh ok I will go with nerites then thanks @AllFishNoBrakes!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gannon Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 I love the look and behavior of nerite snails, but the eggs they lay are a real aesthetic issue, they never go away and are super hard to get off of things! My first driftwood piece from my first ever aquarium is still covered in these eggs like 7-8 years later. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony s Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 On 2/14/2024 at 5:10 PM, AllFishNoBrakes said: As in they lay a ton of eggs and then they hatch and you have a ton of snails. and i thought that was just mystery snails😀 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitecloud09 Posted February 14 Author Share Posted February 14 On 2/14/2024 at 5:11 PM, Gannon said: I love the look and behavior of nerite snails, but the eggs they lay are a real aesthetic issue, they never go away and are super hard to get off of things! My first driftwood piece from my first ever aquarium is still covered in these eggs like 7-8 years later. Oh wow, I thought I heard they only breed in brackish tanks @Gannon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllFishNoBrakes Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 (edited) Nerites cannot reproduce in freshwater. Females will lay eggs, they look like sesame seeds, and they’re super hard to remove. But they can’t breed/actually reproduce in freshwater so there’s no chance of the population getting out of control. Ramshorns and pond/bladder snails will reproduce to the amount of food in the tank, algae included, so things can get out of control if you overfeed. I intentionally feed tanks heavy and let the ramshorns go crazy so I can feed them to my Pea Puffers. Edited February 14 by AllFishNoBrakes 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony s Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 On 2/14/2024 at 5:12 PM, Bigdog99 said: Oh wow, I thought I heard they only breed in brackish tanks They do, but they still lay eggs. they just don't hatch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitecloud09 Posted February 14 Author Share Posted February 14 On 2/14/2024 at 5:11 PM, Tony s said: and i thought that was just mystery snails😀 Is there any snails that are hard to breed so no out of control? @Tony s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gannon Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 On 2/14/2024 at 4:12 PM, Bigdog99 said: Oh wow, I thought I heard they only breed in brackish tanks @Gannon They'll lay eggs in freshwater, but the eggs won't hatch in freshwater. So yeah you don't get a ton of snails, but its not worth the little white dots on EVERYTHING in my opinion. I'd just do any other snail species and try not to overfeed and you'll be okay. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitecloud09 Posted February 14 Author Share Posted February 14 On 2/14/2024 at 5:12 PM, AllFishNoBrakes said: Nerites cannot reproduce in freshwater. Females will lay eggs, they look like sesame seeds, and they’re super hard to remove. But they can’t breed/actually reproduce in freshwater so there’s no chance of the population getting out of control. Ramshorns and pond/bladder snails will reproduce to the amount of food in the tank, algae included, so things can get out of control if you overfeed. I intentionally feed tanks heavy and let the ramshorns go crazy so I can feed them to my Pea Puffers. Thanks!! On 2/14/2024 at 5:13 PM, Gannon said: They'll lay eggs in freshwater, but the eggs won't hatch in freshwater. So yeah you don't get a ton of snails, but its not worth the little white dots on EVERYTHING in my opinion. I'd just do any other snail species and try not to overfeed and you'll be okay. Thanks I never knew, you saved me @Gannon 😂 Thanks everyone!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllFishNoBrakes Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 (edited) On 2/14/2024 at 3:13 PM, Bigdog99 said: Is there any snails that are hard to breed so no out of control? Nerites. If you’re worried about the eggs you can do what @Irene (girltalksfish) has done and keep them in a bucket to start out. If after a couple of weeks there are no eggs in the bucket, you most likely have males and then you’ll never have eggs in the tank. I have 6 nerites right now. I haven’t seen any eggs in the tanks they’re in, so I guess I won the Nerite lottery. Edited February 14 by AllFishNoBrakes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gannon Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 On 2/14/2024 at 4:14 PM, Bigdog99 said: Thanks!! Thanks I never knew, you saved me @Gannon 😂 If you get males, they wont do that, but I've always struggled to tell the difference reliably. Maybe this will help! https://aquariumbreeder.com/nerite-snails-detailed-guide-care-diet-and-breeding/ Besides snails there isn't too many options for a 10 gallon tank. I like habrosus cories, but they're a bit more sensitive and would do better in a slightly bigger tank, but theyd be okay in a 10. Just get at least 6. They don't eat algae but they'll take care of scraps which will reduce snail populations to a healthy amount. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EggShappedFish Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 (edited) What will the clean-up team be cleaning up after? As others mentioned, no overfeeding is the best option but shrimp can be good cleaners if they are not threatened by the other inhabitants. Although a bit boring to look at, Amano shrimp are quite good at it Edited February 14 by EggShappedFish Typo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anewbie Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Shrimps are good but if you have live bears and don't feed them much they will eat more algae and whatever than anything else - of course with a 10 gallon aquarium you really can't keep much to begin with - so my recommendation would depend on what-else is in the aquarium. If your stocking is shrimp friendly then i'd go with shrimp since they will have minimal impact on bio-load HOWEVER given that you are asking this question - if you are not experienced you might want to take it slow as shrimps can be frustrating under the wrong conditions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katherine Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 On 2/14/2024 at 4:16 PM, AllFishNoBrakes said: I have 6 nerites right now. I haven’t seen any eggs in the tanks they’re in, so I guess I won the Nerite lottery. Me too. I currently have 6 and previously had 2 others and I've never had eggs. I wonder if it's somehow related to water conditions as well? 8 males and no females seems ridiculously unlikely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitecloud09 Posted February 15 Author Share Posted February 15 On 2/14/2024 at 5:59 PM, EggShappedFish said: What will the clean-up team be cleaning up after? As others mentioned, no overfeeding is the best option but shrimp can be good cleaners if they are not threatened by the other inhabitants. Although a bit boring to look at, Amano shrimp are quite good at it White cloud minnows @EggShappedFish On 2/14/2024 at 9:18 PM, Katherine said: Me too. I currently have 6 and previously had 2 others and I've never had eggs. I wonder if it's somehow related to water conditions as well? 8 males and no females seems ridiculously unlikely. I would try to identify, but at petsmart it is hard to do that because they have sooo many. That applies to fish I guess but.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllFishNoBrakes Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 On 2/14/2024 at 7:18 PM, Katherine said: I wonder if it's somehow related to water conditions as well? I definitely had a female a couple of years ago! I guess we’ve both just been pretty lucky lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anewbie Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 On 2/14/2024 at 8:18 PM, Katherine said: Me too. I currently have 6 and previously had 2 others and I've never had eggs. I wonder if it's somehow related to water conditions as well? 8 males and no females seems ridiculously unlikely. I found as my female nerite got older she laid less eggs; when young it as annoying as annoying can be. Bless her heart she lived to be 4. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sapphireminds Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 I'm a big fan of common (bladder/ramshorn) snails and MTS for aeration, along with a nerite or two. I don't mind the eggs, I view them as bonus polka dots for the tank 🙂 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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