PineSong Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 I was surprised today to see an online fish retailer list bichirs, clown loaches and dojo loaches as nano fish. I guess I have been thinking of nano fish as fish who can properly be kept in 20g or less, and maybe that's not the actual meaning of the category. What would you consider to be the upper limit on calling a fish nano/marketing it that way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJs Aquatics Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 When I think of nano fish I tend to also think of there size not exceeding that of what would be comfortably housed in a 20gallon or under at full maturity personally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllFishNoBrakes Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 I wanted to say anything under 2” fully grown, but I’m not sure that’s the answer. That would include tons of tetras, rasboras, etc. Maybe those are nano, but they’re not the species that come to mind when I think of “nano” fish. When I personally think of nano fish I think of the really small guys. Chili Rasboras, CPD’s, Pygmy Cory’s, Pea Puffers, etc. It’s hard to really define what it is, in my opinion that separates “nano” from “small”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabokovfan87 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 Nano meaning for me is.... Max size is about 1" or under. "Community fish" would be community tank and be those that get along well and might be over that nano size. At some point they are just fish. On 10/21/2022 at 8:16 PM, PineSong said: I was surprised today to see an online fish retailer list bichirs, clown loaches and dojo loaches as nano fish. Very likely an algorithm because nano fish is searched more and that triggers the Google's search results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSwissAquarist Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 On 10/22/2022 at 5:16 AM, PineSong said: I was surprised today to see an online fish retailer list bichirs, clown loaches and dojo loaches as nano fish. I guess I have been thinking of nano fish as fish who can properly be kept in 20g or less, and maybe that's not the actual meaning of the category. What would you consider to be the upper limit on calling a fish nano/marketing it that way? Nano meaning for me, is anything that can happily live in at least a 5 to 15 gal. I would love to imply the size rule, but Kuhli Loaches positively love my 12 gallon (think I found eggs!) and they’re a 3 inch fish. Interesting debate though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flumpweesel Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 Well I've seen bichirs in stores for sale at only about an inch long and if only they stayed that small. They are the cutest things wrapped round plants like lucky dragons So presumably the site you were looking at bases it on the size of the stock they are selling. Horribly misleading though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSwissAquarist Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 On 10/22/2022 at 10:46 AM, Flumpweesel said: So presumably the site you were looking at bases it on the size of the stock they are selling. Algorithms 😏. On 10/22/2022 at 10:46 AM, Flumpweesel said: Well I've seen bichirs in stores for sale at only about an inch long and if only they stayed that small. They are the cutest things wrapped round plants like lucky dragons I saw a really cool XXL glass orb the other day which the owner (my uncles friend) had scaped beautifully and it had the most enormous (but very cute) bichir in. I’ll try and take a picture next time! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flumpweesel Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 On 10/22/2022 at 10:02 AM, TheSwissAquarist said: Algorithms Redefining how we see the world a bit at a time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSwissAquarist Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 On 10/22/2022 at 11:10 AM, Flumpweesel said: Redefining how we see the world a bit at a time For the good or the bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flumpweesel Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 On 10/22/2022 at 10:13 AM, TheSwissAquarist said: For the good or the bad That's easy the bad, they are controlled by marketing you are constantly being profiled to be sold things. And if they are popular let pop up the price. Things used to have fixed value and the internet wasn't just a great big advert. I kinda hate the way this has all rolled out it was inevitable but we are just paying to be manipulated online. I shall step off this soap box now but come the revolution ... 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSwissAquarist Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 On 10/22/2022 at 11:22 AM, Flumpweesel said: it was inevitable but we are just paying to be manipulated online. It may facilitate communication, but it is quite annoying that you can't live without it in the western world. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch_ScruffyCityAquatics Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 I’ve only considered whatever can thrive in a 20g or below as a Nano fish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSwissAquarist Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 On 10/22/2022 at 7:51 PM, Mitch_ScruffyCityAquatics said: I’ve only considered whatever can thrive in a 20g or below as a Nano fish. I think that should be the rule of thumb. Thanks for summing it up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anjum Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 The dictionary definition of nano is something very, very small. In units of measure, one-billioninth. So to me, a nano (aquarium) fish would be the smallest of the small commonly kept fish. Maybe an inch or smaller, when fully grown. I guess you could fudge that a bit, but getting into the 3"+ range doesn't make sense because now you're talking about a wide variety of fish. Like you can use the 5-20g tank rule, but a Betta fits into that & doesn't seem like a nano fish to me. I guess we could differentiate between a nano fish & a nano aquarium. All that being said, I agree with others above, the site you saw that on was probably just using nano as a buzz word to drive traffic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSwissAquarist Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 On 10/22/2022 at 8:11 PM, Anjum said: The dictionary definition of nano is something very, very small. In units of measure, one-billioninth. So to me, a nano (aquarium) fish would be the smallest of the small commonly kept fish. Maybe an inch or smaller, when fully grown. I guess you could fudge that a bit, but getting into the 3"+ range doesn't make sense because now you're talking about a wide variety of fish. Like you can use the 5-20g tank rule, but a Betta fits into that & doesn't seem like a nano fish to me. I guess we could differentiate between a nano fish & a nano aquarium. All that being said, I agree with others above, the site you saw that on was probably just using nano as a buzz word to drive traffic. Tell you what, I think I’m going to do a fish dictionary. Put all the main meanings and uses of stuff in it and do a relatively complete summary of the main fish species. That’s going to be autumn project, along with trying to rid my LFS (I work there) of sick and unhealthy fish. Thanks for the idea! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lefty o Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 approx 1" or smaller for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd Duck Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 To me, it’s a bit fluid, but I would definitely agree about fish that would be happy in a 20 gallon or smaller. In general 2” or less but Kuhli loaches kind of sneak into the edges of the category since they’re so skinny even though they’re long. I call my 100 G nano tank that because the mid to uppers are all nanos (CPD’s are the biggest), but my plecos in that tank obviously aren’t nanos and I don’t even consider the cories in that tank to be nanos cuz they’re “thicc”. 😃 The plecos and cories of course get along fine with the nanos but I don’t consider them actually nanos. It’s just an easy way to designate the tank. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavdad45 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Any fish whose max size is under an inch, I would consider a nano fish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mynameisnobody Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 IMHO, anything that can live it’s entire life comfortably in anything 20 gallons or less is what I consider to be nano. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanked Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 On 10/22/2022 at 2:14 PM, TheSwissAquarist said: Tell you what, I think I’m going to do a fish dictionary. Put all the main meanings and uses of stuff in it and do a relatively complete summary of the main fish species. Don't forget the ...subject to change without notice disclaimer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSwissAquarist Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 On 10/26/2022 at 2:26 PM, Tanked said: Don't forget the ...subject to change without notice disclaimer. True 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luciferkrist Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 On 10/22/2022 at 4:46 AM, Flumpweesel said: Well I've seen bichirs in stores for sale at only about an inch long and if only they stayed that small. They are the cutest things wrapped round plants like lucky dragons So presumably the site you were looking at bases it on the size of the stock they are selling. Horribly misleading though. Most likely this. They are nano-sized NOW, not what they will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewk Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 On 10/22/2022 at 3:20 AM, TheSwissAquarist said: Nano meaning for me, is anything that can happily live in at least a 5 to 15 gal. I would love to imply the size rule, but Kuhli Loaches positively love my 12 gallon (think I found eggs!) and they’re a 3 inch fish. Interesting debate though! I like this definition. There are plenty of fairly small fish in the 1.5-2 inch range that really need to be kept in large groups or are incredibly active and need space to swim, and I have trouble calling fish that demand a big aquarium Nano fish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The endler guy Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 anything I can house in my tanks sadly : ( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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