dan12boy Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 I wanna know if I have the equipment down for making a summer tub for guppies. Would just a regular tub and some hornwort in the tub be enough? Or do I need a sponge filter or air pump or anything attached to it? Also would it ever get too hot for them? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Burke Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 Prior planning prevents …. You know the rest we don’t have enough information, yet. - Where do you live? - Where are you setting up your tub? (Sun, shade, part shade?) - How big is your tub? - What are you day time high temps? Overnight lows? here in Louisiana, I run an air pump, but no filter, in my 100G. The tub has afternoon shade. I tried to go w/o the pump my first year, and my fish struggled during the heat of the day. Personally, I won’t try that again. If you are trying to breed a bunch of guppies, you’ll need a lot of hornwart, or other plants for the babies to hide in. Consider adding a couple pathos cuttings. They should root fairly quickly, and the vines will hang out over the edges and make it look attractive. Win win 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan12boy Posted May 22, 2022 Author Share Posted May 22, 2022 On 5/22/2022 at 2:20 PM, Ken Burke said: Prior planning prevents …. You know the rest we don’t have enough information, yet. - Where do you live? - Where are you setting up your tub? (Sun, shade, part shade?) - How big is your tub? - What are you day time high temps? Overnight lows? here in Louisiana, I run an air pump, but no filter, in my 100G. The tub has afternoon shade. I tried to go w/o the pump my first year, and my fish struggled during the heat of the day. Personally, I won’t try that again. If you are trying to breed a bunch of guppies, you’ll need a lot of hornwart, or other plants for the babies to hide in. Consider adding a couple pathos cuttings. They should root fairly quickly, and the vines will hang out over the edges and make it look attractive. Win win Okay so first I live in Maryland. The general highs on most days is high 70s low 80s I believe. I’m thinking of setting it up on the patio in the back or just in the backyard under a tree. I don’t know how big the tub will be yet, I don’t want anything big like a 100g, maybe just a 30-40 gallon one. I have a ton of hornwort already right now and tbh they’re the main reason I want the tub so I don’t throw the hornwort away and use it for guppy breeding. If I’m going to need the pump then putting it on the patio would work since I’d be able to have a socket to plug it into. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick_G Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 I use a cycled sponge filter from an indoor tank and a bunch of plant cuttings. Hornwort is probably the best, but floaters, water wisteria, sprite etc will work. I put the tub on the east side of the house for morning sun and afternoon shade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan12boy Posted May 22, 2022 Author Share Posted May 22, 2022 On 5/22/2022 at 2:27 PM, Patrick_G said: I use a cycled sponge filter from an indoor tank and a bunch of plant cuttings. Hornwort is probably the best, but floaters, water wisteria, sprite etc will work. I put the tub on the east side of the house for morning sun and afternoon shade. Okay thank you. I have cycled sponge filter in their tank right now and it’s filled with just hornwort. I’m definitely going to put it on the back patio since that gets morning sun and afternoon shade too. Now all I need is to know what tub I should buy. If anyone can provide any links that’ll be really helpful! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Burke Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 @Fish Folk is in western MD, also tubbing with guppies. I would try to mimic him. I would go for the patio unless you spend a lot of time hanging out by the tree. Best of luck. I love my summer tub…. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 On 5/22/2022 at 2:29 PM, dan12boy said: Okay thank you. I have cycled sponge filter in their tank right now and it’s filled with just hornwort. I’m definitely going to put it on the back patio since that gets morning sun and afternoon shade too. Now all I need is to know what tub I should buy. If anyone can provide any links that’ll be really helpful! You want one from Tractor Supply that is made from plastic labeled “food safe.” Here are mine… 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bev C Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 (edited) @Fish Folk beautiful tub makes me want one now .. but i do not have the shade area both front and back yard has no trees plus I am doing good keeping my indoor going at times Edited May 22, 2022 by Bev C 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Photographer Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 Looks nice! Beautiful guppies as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan12boy Posted May 22, 2022 Author Share Posted May 22, 2022 On 5/22/2022 at 3:17 PM, Fish Folk said: You want one from Tractor Supply that is made from plastic labeled “food safe.” Thank you so much! Do you use any air pumps in yours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan12boy Posted May 22, 2022 Author Share Posted May 22, 2022 Is this good? They’re a little pricey but it’ll be worth it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Burke Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 I think he meant this one. https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/red-shed-25-in-plastic-whiskey-barrel-planter-brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan12boy Posted May 22, 2022 Author Share Posted May 22, 2022 On 5/22/2022 at 3:56 PM, Ken Burke said: I think he meant this one. https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/red-shed-25-in-plastic-whiskey-barrel-planter-brown How many gallons would that hold? I checked the descriptions but couldn’t find that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 On 5/22/2022 at 3:58 PM, dan12boy said: How many gallons would that hold? I checked the descriptions but couldn’t find that I think it’s about 14 gallons. Larger ones are great. Just go visit your local TS yard (outdoors). You’ll find lots of varieties. The shape of your first one is good if it’s large. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Burke Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 On 5/22/2022 at 2:58 PM, dan12boy said: How many gallons would that hold? I checked the descriptions but couldn’t find that One of the comments said 22.6g but idk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan12boy Posted May 22, 2022 Author Share Posted May 22, 2022 On 5/22/2022 at 4:02 PM, Fish Folk said: I think it’s about 14 gallons. Larger ones are great. Just go visit your local TS yard (outdoors). You’ll find lots of varieties. The shape of your first one is good if it’s large. Okay thank you! My main problem is the fact that the nearest one is 40 mins away so I have to order them online. Do lowes not have similar things? Also where do you get most of your fish since you also live in MD? Only lfs I know of is one in silver spring, otherwise I get mine from the basic petco/PetSmart On 5/22/2022 at 4:04 PM, Ken Burke said: One of the comments said 22.6g but idk Okay thanks for the help! I’m trying to move the things from my 20 gallon long to a tub so I can start using that tank for breeding projects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Burke Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 On 5/22/2022 at 3:05 PM, dan12boy said: Okay thank you! My main problem is the fact that the nearest one is 40 mins away so I have to order them online. Do lowes not have similar things? Also where do you get most of your fish since you also live in MD? Only lfs I know of is one in silver spring, otherwise I get mine from the basic petco/PetSmart Okay thanks for the help! I’m trying to move the things from my 20 gallon long to a tub so I can start using that tank for breeding projects. Yes, in the garden center. Check this out https://www.lowes.com/pd/MacCourt-26-in-L-x-26-in-W-Black-High-Density-Polyethylene-Pond-Liner-20-Gallon/999948250 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan12boy Posted May 22, 2022 Author Share Posted May 22, 2022 On 5/22/2022 at 4:10 PM, Ken Burke said: Yes, in the garden center. Check this out https://www.lowes.com/pd/MacCourt-26-in-L-x-26-in-W-Black-High-Density-Polyethylene-Pond-Liner-20-Gallon/999948250 So I can use this?? If so I’m buying it right now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Burke Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 On 5/22/2022 at 3:14 PM, dan12boy said: So I can use this?? If so I’m buying it right now! I think so. The pictures look like the plopped it in a half whisky barrel. If the walls are fairly ridged it should work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan12boy Posted May 22, 2022 Author Share Posted May 22, 2022 On 5/22/2022 at 4:28 PM, Ken Burke said: I think so. The pictures look like the plopped it in a half whisky barrel. If the walls are fairly ridged it should work Okay I’ve bought it so I’m gonna try it by itself and if I need the whisky barrel then I’d get it too later. Thank you for the help Ken! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Burke Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 Here’s my first tubs, from a couple years agosee wow the big tub is bowing out. Avoid that @dan12boy no sweat 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan12boy Posted May 22, 2022 Author Share Posted May 22, 2022 On 5/22/2022 at 4:33 PM, Ken Burke said: Here’s my first tubs, from a couple years agosee wow the big tub is bowing out. Avoid that @dan12boy no sweat Is the whiskey barrel to help me avoid it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 On 5/22/2022 at 4:05 PM, dan12boy said: where do you get most of your fish since you also live in MD? Only lfs I know of is one in silver spring, otherwise I get mine from the basic petco/PetSmart We are in Allegany County. Hillbilly land! There are 2x LFS in town, plus a PetSmart. But we are part of Potomac Valley Aquarium Society that meets monthly in Fairfax. Lots of great aquarists there! Auctions usually have very nice fish. We are permitted to sell on the forum now, following guidelines. Reach out / PM if there’s something we breed that you’re interested in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan12boy Posted May 22, 2022 Author Share Posted May 22, 2022 On 5/22/2022 at 4:39 PM, Fish Folk said: We are in Allegany County. Hillbilly land! There are 2x LFS in town, plus a PetSmart. But we are part of Potomac Valley Aquarium Society that meets monthly in Fairfax. Lots of great aquarists there! Auctions usually have very nice fish. We are permitted to sell on the forum now, following guidelines. Reach out / PM if there’s something we breed that you’re interested in. Whattt you’re lucky, you’re deeper in MD, 2 hrs away from where I am closer to DC. I’d join that society but I don’t drive and Fairfax is about an hour away so once I drive I’ll def join that. And okay I’ll send you a PM! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate s Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 On 5/22/2022 at 4:39 PM, Fish Folk said: We are in Allegany County. Hillbilly land! There are 2x LFS in town, plus a PetSmart. But we are part of Potomac Valley Aquarium Society that meets monthly in Fairfax. Lots of great aquarists there! Auctions usually have very nice fish. We are permitted to sell on the forum now, following guidelines. Reach out / PM if there’s something we breed that you’re interested in. I have a bunch of relatives in Gerrett county in grantsville. My cousins go to college in frostburg. I live in Kentucky but will be up in MD in October for a wedding. Beautiful up there in your parts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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