FreshwaterFacet Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 I quarantined two Amazon Swards and a Crypt a few months ago. I really don’t want snails. They are now in my display tank doing great. Never really had any die back and seemed to transition well! This second batch of plants is another story. I did as I did prior - put treated water (with Seachem Prime) and some aquarium water in a vented tote with an air stone. I had ordered some root tans from the co-op and pressed one in each of them a few days into quarantine. I have done a small water change on it also. This is how they look now. Kinda sad and almost slimy/mushy.. the one more than the other. What am I doing wrong? *Disclaimer, for about 4 days, the plants only had natural sunlight for around 5 hours a day from a window and ambient light in a room. Could this be a contributing factor? Is this the “if you see it die back don’t panic and throw it out, it will likely come back” scenario? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben C. Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Are those crypts? Pretty normal to have die back on them at first, even with submerged growth just going from tank to tank even. Most of the crypts I buy will melt back, and then I will see distinctly different (submerged growth) leaves growing slowly after that. But it's a slow process with them. As long as they still have strong roots, they should be fine. Are these from the Co-Op? If so, I believe they are snail free from the get go, but someone is welcome to correct me! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guppysnail Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 On 7/17/2021 at 11:06 PM, Ben C. said: Are those crypts? Pretty normal to have die back on them at first, even with submerged growth just going from tank to tank even. Most of the crypts I buy will melt back, and then I will see distinctly different (submerged growth) leaves growing slowly after that. But it's a slow process with them. As long as they still have strong roots, they should be fine. Are these from the Co-Op? If so, I believe they are snail free from the get go, but someone is welcome to correct me! Coop plants do indeed have snails 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmiller2001 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 You shoved a rot tab into the pot those plants are in? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshwaterFacet Posted July 18, 2021 Author Share Posted July 18, 2021 On 7/17/2021 at 10:06 PM, Ben C. said: Are those crypts? Pretty normal to have die back on them at first, even with submerged growth just going from tank to tank even. Most of the crypts I buy will melt back, and then I will see distinctly different (submerged growth) leaves growing slowly after that. But it's a slow process with them. As long as they still have strong roots, they should be fine. Are these from the Co-Op? If so, I believe they are snail free from the get go, but someone is welcome to correct me! These are crypts! The plants are from another fish store but the root tabs are from the Co-Op. I am assuming you are correct as they do seem to have “melted.” Know I’m unsure of where or not I keep them in quarantine or place them in my main tank. I feel like that may put additional stress on them but I’m unsure. I have had them in quarantine for a week today (Sunday). I have seen no signs of snails or eggs just looking at them but I know they can be difficult to find sometimes. Should I take a chance and plant them now that they are pretty well melted back? Or keep them in quarantine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshwaterFacet Posted July 18, 2021 Author Share Posted July 18, 2021 @Mmiller2001 yes! I knew these plants were root feeders and being a QT tub with no bio nutrients, I like to use root tables. I knew they suggested root tabs in the Co-Op Easy Planters so I did the same thing here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmiller2001 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 I would think that would burn the plant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshwaterFacet Posted July 18, 2021 Author Share Posted July 18, 2021 Could be? I’m a new plant keeper so I don’t have a ton of experience with them. I did do that with my first three plants I had previously in quarantine and I was amazed at how they perked up afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JettsPapa Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Personally I wouldn't quarantine plants. If I was concerned about pest snails I'd dip one of them in one of the several available solutions to kill snails and their eggs, then put them directly in the display tank. If you put them into a quarantine tank for an extended period then they have to acclimate twice. I know they'd probably be getting the same water in both tanks, but it's difficult to duplicate the lighting. By the way, the so-called pest snails are rarely numerous enough to be a problem if you restrict their food by not over feeding your fish and promptly removing decaying plant matter. Even if you do seem to get an initial population explosion it will generally level out over time. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Goatee Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Sometimes I’ve found plants to be hit or miss. Crypts melt, sometimes all the way back to the root before recovering. I don’t know if water parameter changes play a roll or not in how they react. I’ve had some just not make it and others thrive, really long shipping times beyond 5 or 6 days kill more plants than any I get faster. Plants sourced locally, sometimes pulled directly next to each other out of same tank, respond differently once planted in identical setups. The best way I’ve delt with snails is getting a few assassin snails if pest snails appear. They help diminish populations over time. I must have had like 100+ ramshorns in a small tank. About 6 months after adding a few assassins, the population was diminished with lots of empty shells. I like assassin snails as population controllers, even if they are slower than other possible solutions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshwaterFacet Posted July 20, 2021 Author Share Posted July 20, 2021 I appreciate the feedback from everyone! Considering the information I’ve gathered here, Id like to plant them in my display display tank considering they will likely do better & won’t have to re-acclimate again! What’s the best route to take? I’ve read some people cut them back, plant the roots, apply root tabs and hope for the best.. others plant the melted plant, gross leaves & all. What have you seen work best? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streetwise Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 You may not need to quarantine plants, but it can still be very useful to stage plants. I often order plants without a plan, or a timeline for when I will get a chance to plant them. It is nice to let them stay healthy while you wait. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JettsPapa Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 On 7/20/2021 at 6:49 PM, FreshwaterFacet said: I appreciate the feedback from everyone! Considering the information I’ve gathered here, Id like to plant them in my display display tank considering they will likely do better & won’t have to re-acclimate again! What’s the best route to take? I’ve read some people cut them back, plant the roots, apply root tabs and hope for the best.. others plant the melted plant, gross leaves & all. What have you seen work best? I don't claim to be an authority, but I remove any decaying leaves, if any, and plant what's left. Removing all the leaves and planting just the roots may work well, but I'm curious about the reasoning behind it. Why remove healthy leaves? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streetwise Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 I got a plant order for my parents’ tank, but I don’t know when I will make the trip to plant, so all the pots are in a seasoned bucket with a light and a sponge filter. They get to do their plant stuff, and I don’t have to worry about my timeline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshwaterFacet Posted July 21, 2021 Author Share Posted July 21, 2021 @Streetwisedo you keep a seasoned bucket? Or do you always have it filled? Did you have fish in it at one point? I’d love to know more! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streetwise Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 My indoor and homestead journals show the story in detail, and my Vermont journal shows some of my collection efforts. Short answer: I keep multiple spare seasoned buckets and tanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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