RyanU

Just an update. Tom took a bite of a bug bite this morning. He didn't eat the whole thing though. He sucked it in and spit it back out in pieces. Is that normal? It almost seems like the food is to big to fit in his mouth. I tried to break one up but it immediately sank to the bottom. Should I try food for a baby betta or Just keep going with the bug bites?

The only thing I am using is Root Tabs for the plants. Those were cut offs from my other tank. They were kind of floating and the roots got really long. I think the cloudy was from the meds and food. I did a 2 gallon water change this morning and sucked as much of the food as I could out and the cloudy went away. The fins looked like that when we brought him home. And yes I am using Prime for dechlorinater and also Ammonia prevention as I read some reviews that said the Meds killed their BB. I checked it this morning and it looked yellowish. I will check again tonight and make sure it was just from the food and not from the meds.

Yea I have not tried frozen blood worms. just frozen brine. He seemed interested in them but didnt eat. I will try them again tonight and see what happens.

Thanks for that. Just to update everyone who has been helping me. Last night I added the second Dose of Lifeguard and some aquarium salt at 1 tablespoon for 2 gallons, dosage suggested by @Colu and he is doing much better. Not sure if it is the meds or the Salt but last night my wife checked on him and she said all his fins were open and he was sitting in the middle of the tank. This morning when I turned on the light we was swimming around. Just now he is sitting in front of the Mirror with all this fins open. He still didn't eat anything this morning. I tried giving him a couple baby brine shrimp. He saw them and swam towards them but didn't want to eat. I may run to my LFS tonight and see if I can get some live Baby Brine in hopes that I can peak his interest with a moving target. Then maybe the frozen will be good enough for him after that

I know me too. I think he is going to be a cool looking fish once he is healthy

The good thing is I have 30 days to return. I already purchased the meds. I will give the meds the week to see what happens. If nothing is better then I might return. Itrekked to the other fish guy at The other big box store i went to because they have meds in stock said he would do the same thing give it a shot if nothing improves take it back.

@Jungle Fan they is an amazing looking tank. I could definitely see that in my basement

Just leave it in the tank for the whole week of treatment?

OK thank you

@Colu sorry one more question. I Also picked up some aquarium salt. Do you think I could use that in conjunction?I know that will kill the plants in the tank but according to the reviews so does this medicine

Thank you for the help

OK.

That's what I think to. I have not seen him poop yet. He also hasn't eaten yet either though. Today I made some mods to the tank and removed the HOB submersible and made a DIY sponge filter which drastically reduced the flow and Tom had been swimming around more. I also put a mirror by his tank to see how he would react. He actually raised his top fin but it didn't fan out. Is it possibly clamped fin? Also his lower funds by his head are very small and they look curled up to me. I'm going to continue the treatment of life guard for the recommended schedule and see what happens.

Thank you. I contacted Tetra today and asked the same question because I read some more about life guard and it said if you over dose use prime to detoxify so I was concerned if I do daily water changes before every dose of using prime would actually make the meds not work. In the package it didn't say to change the water daily only on thy sixth day after 24hours, but do you think it will hurt abetting if I do change the water daily

Yea sorry. I just checked. Ammonia is 0 nitrite if 0 and nitrates are between 5 and 10. I herbs been watching them like a hawk because I read these meds can like your BB. I assumed the water was cloudy from the meds and from the food I am leaving in the the tank to try and get him to eat. He hasn't s eaten since I brought him home Saturday

@Dancing Matt Temp is stable at 79. Water parameters look good. I made a DIY sponge filter to reduce the flow. He seems to be moving around the tank more. He doesn't seem to be interested in food which is a concern and why I think there is something wrong. Also he has fin damage in the back and I belive belias possibly clamped fin or the start of fun rot. When he raises good to fin it stays bunched together like in the picture

I agree with what @Guppysnail said. It looks to be 7.2. I also have trouble telling the color correctly. One thing that was suggested to me a while ago when I first started the hobby was to take the cap off and look directly down the tube.

It does help. I'm hopefull the meds will work in a couple days

Help please. My new betta is sitting at the bottom of the tank opening and closing is mouth. I started another thread a few days ago "new betta not eating" about him not eating since I brought him home Saturday. Last night I started a general treatment for everything with tetra lifeguard. Only general meds at pet store. So you think it's something else or just really sick and need to let the meds work.

So I think I purchased a sick betta. Not surprised as of their living conditions. Long story short he hasn't eaten and has been laying on the gravel also some gasping. On another thread in thud forum I was given a ton of help. One suggestion was to use Api general cure. Nobody around has it. I went to the big box store lay night and talked to someone in the fish department. I explained to him how the fish was acting. He said to use Tetra Lifeguard. Told me it's "identical " to general cure. I did some quick research at the store and the reviews looked good. I started treatment immediately when I got home. After dying some more research I found people saying it wrecked their bio filter. Also it killed their plants. I'm not so worried about the plants. They were free from my other tank, but thy bio filter has me worried. If I do start to see ammonia can I treat with prime while using the meds. Or do I need to manage that with water changes. If it's the second should I plan on doing the water changes so that when I am done changing the water is fine for dose #2 TIA

Just an update and a question. Tom was swimming around when I got home. I noticed after swimming he would go to the bottom of the tank and open and close his mouth a few times then swim some more. I stopped at the pet store i purchased him from and grabbed the fluval betta bug bites. He still didn't seem interested in eating. I was taking to the guy at the store and he said I could bring him back and they would exchange him and also treat him. Should I bring him back and exchange him and let them treat him or keep doing whet I am doing and see if he comes around

@NanoNano One thing I did notice last night when I was installing the Air Stone. He seemed interested in me and came up and was nibbling at my arm.

I added the air stone last night. I think he spent the entire night up behind the filter. This morning when I turned on thy light to feed he was swimming a little bit. He ended up tucked under one of the small plants. One of the big box stores I went to last night don't have either hikari betta good or fluval bug bites so I picked up What betta food they had. He still hasn't eaten withe last night or this morning. I think I'm going to run to thy other big box store on my way home tonight and see if they have either of the foods and also garlic guard. So I guess he is making progress by not sitting at the top of the tank. Still concerned with the not eating. Hopefully after I grab the other food he will start eating

I agree. Working from Home has its perks. As I can constantly monitor everything. The bad is I can Constantly monitor everything and have a knee jerk reaction. I definitely need to get a pump. I cant believe I forgot that. And some hikari gold betta food. I will just throttle it back with a control valve. I have been constantly rotating the tubes from the betta tank to my other tank as(right or wrong) as I don't want to deprive the other tank of oxygen. and within id say 10 minutes he is back at the top of the tank. when the air is on he goes and hides under one of the plants. I just checked my PH and it is between 7.2 and 7.6. Now that you mention it. I haven't seen him poop at all since I brought him home. I just assumed that was from not eating. I think I saw some poo in the cup when I grabbed him

Ok thank you. I called the pet store i purchaced him from and asked what food they feed and am going to pick that up. I also forgot to purchase an air pump while i was there and temporarily have a line hooked up to the tank from my other tank. he seems to be coming around. he is now tucked under one of the plants next to the filter. I dont think there is to much water flow as the leaves of the small plant barely move. he also has swam under the intake of the filter. It could have possibly been lack of oxygen in the tank. My mistake. What should i do about the fin damage that he had when i purchased him? (See pics from earlier in the thread)