Fenrir Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Always have had a soft spot for GBR's but scared to try with having ph lvls at around 8 living in Wisconsin. Am I just wasting money if I get them? If not would they ever breed? I keep my tank at 79 degrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan S. Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 I kept a pair in hard water at around 80 degrees. They laid eggs 2 or 3 times but never hatched. I have always assumed that they wouldn't be able to hatch in my water or at that temp but I'm far from an expert. The fish themselves did well though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 GBR like soft acidic water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy's Fish Den Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 I have kept German blues, and electric blue rams in my hard tap water with no issues. Your best bet would be to get them from a breeder or store in your area so that they are acclimated to the local waters. I think the issue most people have with rams is not keeping them warm enough, When I have had them, I keep them between 82-86 degrees. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemon Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 maybe you could use peat in media bags and have those sit in your water change water for a couple days weeks? idk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenrir Posted January 22, 2021 Author Share Posted January 22, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Andy's Fish Den said: I have kept German blues, and electric blue rams in my hard tap water with no issues. Your best bet would be to get them from a breeder or store in your area so that they are acclimated to the local waters. I think the issue most people have with rams is not keeping them warm enough, When I have had them, I keep them between 82-86 degrees. Do you think 79 would be ok? I just don't want to overheat my Angels and Kribs. I might remove kribs since they reside in the same territory just have them for a spawning project is all. I can bump up to 80 just don't want to go crazy. Edited January 22, 2021 by Fenrir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy's Fish Den Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 17 hours ago, Fenrir said: Do you think 79 would be ok? I just don't want to overheat my Angels and Kribs. I might remove kribs since they reside in the same territory just have them for a spawning project is all. I can bump up to 80 just don't want to go crazy. I would say no, minimum 82. Angels will do fine in 82 water. I wouldn't keep rams and kribs in the same tank anyways. They both use the same area of the tank (bottom) and can be quite territorial when spawning. So I would choose one or the other or set up another tank. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenrir Posted January 23, 2021 Author Share Posted January 23, 2021 25 minutes ago, Andy's Fish Den said: I would say no, minimum 82. Angels will do fine in 82 water. I wouldn't keep rams and kribs in the same tank anyways. They both use the same area of the tank (bottom) and can be quite territorial when spawning. So I would choose one or the other or set up another tank. That sounds great. I'll be getting 6 from a local breeder in hopes that can get some pairs to then breed myself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Agreed with all on this thread -- Rams and Kribs (both fun) are not ideal tank mates. We've raised lots of both . . . never together. Exactly how "hard" is your water? Can you get a KH test kit and figure out how many drops it takes to turn from blue to yellow? Having a high pH is not necessarily the same as having hard water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenrir Posted January 23, 2021 Author Share Posted January 23, 2021 With that being said what are some triggers for breeding rams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy's Fish Den Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 On 1/23/2021 at 3:16 PM, Fenrir said: With that being said what are some triggers for breeding rams? Candle lights, red roses, chocolate, Barry White.... Seriously, there are a couple good videos on the co-op YouTube channel with Dean, here's a link to one. How to Breed German Blue Rams - YouTube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenrir Posted January 25, 2021 Author Share Posted January 25, 2021 27 minutes ago, Andy's Fish Den said: Candle lights, red roses, chocolate, Barry White.... Seriously, there are a couple good videos on the co-op YouTube channel with Dean, here's a link to one. How to Breed German Blue Rams - YouTube Lmao I love it! Thanks for the point in the right direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) On 1/23/2021 at 3:16 PM, Fenrir said: what are some triggers for breeding rams? Start with a properly cycled tank. A good water change can trigger them. They do like it warm -- 80-88 degrees Farenheit. Feed them live food -- baby brine shrimp, daphnia. Keep the male and female in separate tanks for a little while to prime them to spawn. Put the male in first to the breeding tank to "own the space." Once he's settled, then just as soon as you add the female and feed live food together, they'll probably spawn within 48 hrs. You'll know they're ready, because they peck at their breeding area like crazy. Now, raising the fry is an additional challenge. Here's a series on Spawning Rams we did the other year. There's better ways to do this, but if you're looking for a close-up, step-by-step method, this can provide you with some ideas. Rams are AWESOME! Edited January 25, 2021 by Fish Folk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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