Jstewart0925 Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 My wife got these Cory’s for me as a present for my planted 20 long but she said they only said corydoras on the tank they were in. I would like to get a few more could anybody help me identify them? I’m thinking maybe bronze corydoras not sure tho. Thanks Josh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurt Brutting Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 My best guess is Bronze Corydora’s. The light bronze patch behind the eye is the indicator. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabokovfan87 Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 @Ken Burkewhat do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorydorasEthan Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 On 7/30/2022 at 1:14 PM, Jstewart0925 said: My wife got these Cory’s for me as a present for my planted 20 long but she said they only said corydoras on the tank they were in. I would like to get a few more could anybody help me identify them? I’m thinking maybe bronze corydoras not sure tho. Thanks Josh Yep those are bronze corydoras! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd Duck Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 Definitely look like bronzes to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Burke Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 I’m gonna go with the crowd here: bronze corys For a second I was wondering if they could be red sailfins, but the tail is black. Sailfins (venezuelanus) can be confused with Corydoras aeneus (bronze corydoras) and indeed C. venezuelanus is usually considered a junior synonym of that species. https://www.planetcatfish.com/common/species.php?species_id=716 Sailfin https://www.planetcatfish.com/common/species.php?species_id=51 Bronze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamieterrin Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 DAM your good at photographing fish whats the secret? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabokovfan87 Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 (edited) On 7/30/2022 at 4:19 PM, Ken Burke said: For a second I was wondering if they could be red sailfins, but the tail is black. Sailfins (venezuelanus) can be confused with Corydoras aeneus (bronze corydoras) and indeed C. venezuelanus is usually considered a junior synonym of that species. Yeah, that's the issue for me too it doesn't look like either one. The ones I have (black version of the bronze corys) Corydoras schultzei "Black". <---- Second link in my signature as well as photos below. So if there's a unique version of the bronze that's newer / different than the ones I have..... I'm confused and these have to be the insanely rare black version of the red sailfin venezualean's. One of the big differences for me is how the red fins alter. On yours it's right below the dorsal is the biggest identifier for me. If that red splotch is there under the dorsal it looks like the venezuelean to me as opposed to the schultzei/aenus/bronze where it's less on the body and more on the top of the fish. From what I'm seeing now (ignore me being confused, it's been one of those days. Ones I have: seen above, Corydoras Schultzei (Black version of Gold Flash Corys) Ones @Ken Burke has are the Corydoras Venezualean (Black version of Red Sailfin Corys) ---> EDIT: Found a decent photo of the darkened form. could just be dark substrate too. Ones in the OP: "black variant" of Corydoras Aenas (Black version of Bronze Corys) EDIT 2: These are from a listing of bronze corys, confirming the comments above by everyone, yay! That right? If someone has clear sentence for it, I'll add it to the quote below for my notes 😂 Quote If you are having trouble distinguishing one from the other, here is a simple guide. Young C. schultzii "Black" tend to have all reddish fins which darken with maturity. C. venezuelanus look very similar to the young C. schultzii "Black". However both the normal C. venezuelanus we see in the hobby, and the dark form have reddish dorsal and adipose fins, but the caudal, anal and ventral fins are grey. Clarification: Quote Corydoras schultzei is usually considered a synonym of Corydoras aeneus. However, there is a school of thought that holds the opinion that Corydoras aeneus should be restricted to the holotype form which is from the island of Trinidad and specifically is not as elongate as C. schultzi. Somewhere across the huge geographic range of "continental" Corydoras aeneus and amongst its several geographic variations, which are really quite different shapes and sizes, sees the species featured here. If for no other reason than to prevent captive hybridisation and indeed to help separate the other forms, the junior synonym is used here as a species in its own right. Edited July 31, 2022 by nabokovfan87 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Burke Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 The trick here is to look at the red. Schultzei have a black stripe with red on top and below the tail. Sailfin have red across the base of the tail. The bronze corys are black at the base of the tail. Well, that’s my opinion anyhow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabokovfan87 Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 On 7/30/2022 at 8:51 PM, Ken Burke said: You Corys look awesome. I'm excited for you. I think your breakdown is right. I was confused because that article referred to aenus and there's a discrepancy between the schultzei and aenus. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Burke Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 All I know is schultzei run $30. Little rich for me, especially since I don’t have room for another corydoras colony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabokovfan87 Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 (edited) On 7/30/2022 at 9:18 PM, Ken Burke said: All I know is schultzei run $30. Little rich for me, especially since I don’t have room for another corydoras colony Whenever I get some, I'll let ya know. I'd love to trade you some 🙂 big storm tonight so fingers crossed. It'll be a while though. Edited July 31, 2022 by nabokovfan87 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jstewart0925 Posted July 31, 2022 Author Share Posted July 31, 2022 On 7/30/2022 at 9:19 PM, jamieterrin said: DAM your good at photographing fish whats the secret? Thanks lol 😂 lots of patience iPhone 13 and the macro setting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamieterrin Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 On 7/31/2022 at 10:34 AM, Jstewart0925 said: Thanks lol 😂 lots of patience iPhone 13 and the macro setting i see wow, please take some video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabokovfan87 Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 @Jstewart0925 new photos? How are the little ones doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jstewart0925 Posted October 15, 2022 Author Share Posted October 15, 2022 On 10/13/2022 at 10:26 PM, nabokovfan87 said: @Jstewart0925 new photos? How are the little ones doing? Their good unfortunately I lost one about a month back 😞 no new photos works been crazy at the moment. But they are about to get a new big home when I move them to my planted 54 gallon lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anewbie Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 One thing to be aware of is that if bronze cory get wet they can rust; so you gotta keep them dry.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B7gwap Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 All jokes aside, there is a fair amount of coloration variety in Corydoras Aeneus (bronze Cory), Being our hobby’s most famous Cory after maybe Paleatus or Cory McElroyus. 🙂 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabokovfan87 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 On 10/15/2022 at 11:48 AM, Jstewart0925 said: Their good unfortunately I lost one about a month back 😞 no new photos works been crazy at the moment. But they are about to get a new big home when I move them to my planted 54 gallon lol. Very unfortunate. It does happen. 😞 Glad to hear you're excited for their new home. Sounds awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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