Native Keeper Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Hello everyone! Currently I have a 110 gallon that has 6 goldfish in it. I initially put in a sponge filter for filtration, but it is not doing well at all. What would y'all recommend for this set up? I'm thinking some canister filter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 External canister are great for messy goldfish I use a fluval 307 on my goldfish tank with a ziss bubble filter I think an FX 4 or FX 6 would be a good choice 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChemBob Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 I'll second the Fluvals. I have 2 7 series and they are running great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardedbillygoat1975 Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Eheim classic 2217 or a 2262, it’s a nice big canister and you can put whatever you want in it but they come with some great media to start and you can configure it how you like it. I use media bags to separate things. Very quiet 🤫 making for happy partners. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevesFishTanks Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 I would recommend the fx line of fluvals as well. Even better would be installing a big prefilters on any canister intakes. You can use them for major mechanical removal and clean them with every water change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardenman Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 You have lots of options. I might be more inclined to go with a couple of bigger hang on back filters. The Aquaclears or other non-cartridge types. Canister filters are great (I'm using two now.) But they can be a pain to clean and maintain. Two HOBs one on each end of the 110-gallon tank would give you good water flow and be pretty easy to maintain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Native Keeper Posted January 3, 2022 Author Share Posted January 3, 2022 @Beardedbillygoat1975 I think I'll go with your recommendation, since it's the cheaper option of canisters, tysm! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndEEss Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 An Eheim 2262/1500 XL or FX4/6. That will eventually be a LOT of fish and a LOT of fish waste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 (edited) Yeah, I agree with @gardenman Canisters can be a huge pain to maintain. I recommend going with AquaClear HOBs. A lot easier. And if you want more filtration, add plants with the Co-app Easy Planters. Goldfish can't dig them up. Edited January 3, 2022 by Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Native Keeper Posted January 3, 2022 Author Share Posted January 3, 2022 See, here's the thing, @Jeff @gardenman, I have an Aqua clear 75 on my 75-gallon tank, and I despise cleaning that thing out. I still want to try canisters. I want to experiment and experiment I will. Thank you for your recommendations! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotTunaCartel Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 On 1/2/2022 at 11:14 PM, Beardedbillygoat1975 said: Eheim classic 2217 or a 2262, it’s a nice big canister and you can put whatever you want in it but they come with some great media to start and you can configure it how you like it. I use media bags to separate things. Very quiet 🤫 making for happy partners. I just installed the eheim classic on my 20 long. I kinda feel for me at least that its easier to clean than my fluval 407. I disconnect it, and flip it upside down into a stainless steel bowl squeeze out the sponge, empty the water in the bowl, swish it around in some tap water (well water) put the media back in and put some filter floss on the top. Fill it with water and slap the top back on. I was really impressed with how easy it was to clean 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardedbillygoat1975 Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 @HotTunaCartelI agree, I never understood the issues people have with maintaining it or priming it - if you just unplug it, close the valves on the quick disconnect to the tank and from the tank, and then do your maintenance, when you hook it back in it essentially self primes when you open the valves back up. Sure you have to shake it a bit to get the bubbles out but I have had to do that with Fluvals as well. The other thing is it is so easy to get Eheim parts, although I have heard Fluval is good as well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotTunaCartel Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 @Beardedbillygoat1975 That was the thing that amazed me, once you prime it in the beginning it really doesn't need to be primed again and starts up right away with only a little of the noise as it pushes out the little bit of air. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardedbillygoat1975 Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 I think the things I have learned about these filters over the last 20 years - 1 get media bags to separate out your bio media, 2 get good sponges I really like the 10, 20 and 30 dpi from Swiss Tropicals you get what you pay for, 3 I have watched some pond guru videos about the order of placement of the media and this has really helped me keep things clean and flowing through the system. He uses the bottom of a planter to keep the foams from being squished but I am too inpatient for that. Currently I have a mix of substrate pro and mech that it came with on the very bottom below the grate, then I have 10, 20 then 30 dpi foams, then I have a giant media bag of biohome ultimate (I would just do lava and pumice stone next time after some of the recent trials people have done), then I put either fine filter floss or when I use meds a carbon pad. I have also gone without the filter floss and this has worked just fine as well and saves you a need to change out the floss every month or so. However, the filter floss really is magic for pristine water clarity. I really don't care about particulate. You can also put a prefilter sponge on the intake and then I just ring this out with each water change giving me greater time between filter services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HH Morant Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Like @Beardedbillygoat1975 and @HotTunaCartel, I like Eheim, primarily because it has one big chamber which allows me to use whatever media I like. I cut 30 ppi foam to fit and fill the cannister with it - and nothing else. Works great. Aquariumscience.org has some great articles on filter media which describe the benefits of 30 ppi foam and the shortcomings of most commercial filter media. I have occasionally had difficulty getting the cannisters re-started, but it is usually something simple I have overlooked. This has become less of a problem now that I only open the cannisters to clean them if flow has noticeably decreased, which is every 2-3 months or so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotTunaCartel Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 @HH Morant Quote Aquariumscience.org has some great articles on filter media Just read that article, wow that is some serious testing they did. Thanks for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 On 1/3/2022 at 1:53 PM, HydraSlayer said: See, here's the thing, @Jeff @gardenman, I have an Aqua clear 75 on my 75-gallon tank, and I despise cleaning that thing out. I still want to try canisters. I want to experiment and experiment I will. Thank you for your recommendations! Fair enough. Good luck to you! Let us know how your canister works out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Native Keeper Posted January 10, 2022 Author Share Posted January 10, 2022 @FarriisA, I mentioned it was a 110 gallon in the original statement, though I will try to remember this for future tank builds, thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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