Kittkat1981 Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 Debating on doing a 150 gal tub next spring. i live in kansas. 90 to 105 summer 50 to 20 average winter. i want to keep it going all the time. what fish will take this temp swing? Keep in mind; it will be out of direct sunlight. and i have no problem putting more air or a small heater to keep it from freezing. in short i want this to be an aquarium but outside....all the time. can it be done and what fish to get. what should i keep an eye on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expectorating_Aubergine Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 Get white clouds and run air from indoors to keep it from freezing. Oh, and put a cover on it to keep unwanted critters out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick_G Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 (edited) The easy was to go would be Goldfish, but I’m a little biased since I like them so much. Japanese Ricefish might also be an easy choice. I don’t have any but I’m enjoying them vicariously through @Ryo Watanabe’s YouTube channel. here’s a couple pics I poached from the internet Edited August 21, 2021 by Patrick_G 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittkat1981 Posted August 21, 2021 Author Share Posted August 21, 2021 Would putting a 300 watt or even smaller heater be beneficial? Running air from the inside may not be doable. Its roughly 30 ft of tubing to get air to tithe air would be cold befor it got there. But I can run a nano pump outside, PROTECTED CAUSE THEY ARNT WATER PROOF, and will probably do just that, the more I think about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittkat1981 Posted August 21, 2021 Author Share Posted August 21, 2021 My major concern is what fish can handle the seasonal extremes. Gold fish like mentioned above are an idea. But I would like to keep some plants. I know they will die off in the winter but horn wort or brazzilian money wort grows fast. Also thinking of just some water lettus or frogbit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateGoldfish Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 I’d highly recommend reading a copy of dr. Ted Coletti’s The Tub Pond Handbook. It’s pretty much the all things from a guy who has been tub ponds for decades. I would also recommend goldfish, if your in an area where you are not worried much about predation, I’d recommend Chinese bred telescope butterfly goldfish, they are meant to be viewed from above and can handle ice, they just are slower so if your worried about predation than I’d stick to the single tail goldfish. rice fish can handle the ice, but will be more vulnerable to dragonfly larva and things like that which won’t bother goldfish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick_G Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 I grow floaters and emersed plants in my goldfish patio pond. When I had a small inground pond in a colder area I used a littte stock tank heater to keep a section ice free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L_goodei200 Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 I'll be the odd one out and suggest natives. Kansas has some cool ones (Northern Plains Killifish, Red Shiners, Longear Sunfish, Orangespotted Sunfish, even the wild form of the Rosy Red Minnow (Fathead Minnows)) occur in Kansas, and they can handle the temperatures with just a stock tank de-icer in the winter 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streetwise Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 White Clouds and Neocaridina can survive under ice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittkat1981 Posted August 21, 2021 Author Share Posted August 21, 2021 On 8/21/2021 at 4:17 PM, Streetwise said: White Clouds and Neocaridina can survive under ice. On 8/21/2021 at 3:57 PM, L_goodei200 said: I'll be the odd one out and suggest natives. Kansas has some cool ones (Northern Plains Killifish, Red Shiners, Longear Sunfish, Orangespotted Sunfish, even the wild form of the Rosy Red Minnow (Fathead Minnows)) occur in Kansas, and they can handle the temperatures with just a stock tank de-icer in the winter On 8/21/2021 at 2:54 PM, Patrick_G said: I grow floaters and emersed plants in my goldfish patio pond. When I had a small inground pond in a colder area I used a littte stock tank heater to keep a section ice free. I should also note. My well water parameters. 45 dgh. 44 dkh. Little to no nitrates no nitrites no ammonia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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