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I assume you mean Gardneri?
I think that males will fight a bit. It's probably best to keep multiple females per male. A trio is probably all a 10 gal could hold. I'd, in fact, consider a different species, or a larger tank for Gardneri long term.
I've been breeding Scheeli. They're very similar -- a bit smaller, and maybe slightly less aggressive.
If you want a display 10 gal tank where fry emerge now and then, you'll want to have a ton of low cover. Males of the Genus Fundulopanchax typically chase females down to spawn in / against mops, plants, or substrate...
The eggs take weeks to hatch, and fry are so small, you won't see them well until they're weeks old. So if you have a load of java moss, they'll breed in there just fine and multiply for you slowly. Adults do eat some fry, but enough fry will live if your tank is well-planted.
I have really enjoyed the Emerald Killi (Scheeli). Here are a few photos of the males I've kept, hatched out and raised up...
And here's a look at the 33-gal long that I use as a colony for them. They'll breed in here now, slowly multiplying. I don't necessarily need to specially breed them using mops / hatching jugs / fry grout tanks unless I want to...
But I think that I'd someday rally like to try my hand at the Australe Orange Killis. A guy in my fish club breeds and sells these. They really stand out brightly against green, making for a lovely contrast...
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On 4/10/2022 at 9:27 PM, nabokovfan87 said:
I would offer a few very specific suggestions based on what I have setup on my side and the extremely high flow stuff I've done. I think it makes a lot of sense to take a step back and break down the major issue before you dive into fine details.
I'd love to hear! All I've ever done for flow is add powerheads, and occasionally an HOB -- but typically, that just pushes water down rather than out across.
I think that what I'd love to achieve is something like the opening video from Oliver Knott. I'd love a sequence that really simulates the heavy flow of a river.
My basic reasoning is that it _seems_ like these Gold Nugget Plecos thrive and multiply in heavy, heavy flow.
Any ideas?
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Your girl looks gorgeous. Love the yellow + orange.
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Rewatching the MAN City v Liverpool match right now here:
https://dood.so/d/1l5w95bq6x7h
Lots of popups, but once you clear, it's a great re-stream.
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Here it is: The moment this eve in Valencia, when two teenage F. C. Barcelona subs -- a 17 year old (#30) and a 19 year old (#16) -- sliced open Levante F.C. like a razor sharp fillet knife through fish...
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We’ve got FREE SWIMMERS!!!!!
I’ve waited a long while to get this right again.
Here’s a video there’s Shiners in both containers…
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On 4/10/2022 at 4:57 PM, anewbie said:
I might have missed it but with this species of betta do you have sep male from female after they breed or can you leave them both in the tank to care for the youngs. I'm pretty sure there is at least type of betta where both parents will care for the frys.
I notice that the male beats up the female a bit here. Maybe they’ll get better at it though.
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Ugh! We won. 2-3. Brutal. Worse moments in our play were unforgivable. Levante pressed like a pack of rabbid hillbilly raccoons. Refereeing was awful, on both sides. Only saving lights were our subs. We’ll take the three points, but that felt like a 5-0 thrashing loss.
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Off with De Jong and Nico… on with Pedri and Gavi… lo and behold! Barça is up 1-2 !!!
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On 4/10/2022 at 4:08 PM, Ken Burke said:
@Fish Folk @Odd Duck, I was reflecting on this while my wife and I were at the grocery store.
Let’s be honest, it does not take a huge anoint of brain power to push a buggy around and throw out the occasional “yes Dear” and the random “no thank you”. Usually works well, but last week she sent me alone. Everyone was looking at me all strange like as a pushed an empty shopping cart around talking to myself before checking out with a bag of chips, a box of slim Jim’s, and 8 cowboy tomahawk steaks.
anyhow, if you are using 2 ACO power filters with sponge filters, you really don’t need the Tidal 110 at all. Especially if you use one of the spray bars just above the waterline.
Can you find a video of one of those in action?
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On 4/10/2022 at 3:59 PM, Streetwise said:
City v Liverpool was amazing. United was disappointing again, but Ten Hag looks closer.
Pep G. looked absolutely manic at the final whistle.
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On 4/10/2022 at 3:45 PM, WhitecloudDynasty said:
I make sure all the food I use have it already, I do add the astaxanthin. Then I control the fat and protein with kensgreen pellets. Kens green is produced cold so it hold more protein, fat, and nutrition. But I always mix it down, to high of a protein will hurt your water quality cause they can't use it all and over time kill your fish liver
I’d love to read a thorough post from you on feeding, nutrition, where you source your food, etc. This is great info!
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Xavi Hernandez — Special halftime talk translation:
”You look like a bunch of stoned cows out too late on a Spanish Sunday night! Every clown who makes a ridiculous pass in the second half shall be summarily dragged home behind the bus!”
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I haven’t yelled so much at my TV for 30 mins straight since… I can’t remember.
Barça is playing BAD!!!
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So! We have some fry. They’re really, really hard to see…
Here I’m feeding…
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On 4/10/2022 at 2:57 PM, WhitecloudDynasty said:
It's cause by the lack of nutrition in the female.
Eggs not hatch mean the eggs wasn't good in the first place.
My 6 males can fertile all of the 1000s of eggs I hatch out every year just fine with out rare missing any eggs. So the male isn't the problem.
I have notices when I separate my female from the males their eggs hatch better and have strong frys. NOTE they could get egg bound if left apart too long.
My female always get a good all round quality fish food. With vitamin c, b6,b12...calcium, I also add .5-2% of astaxanthin. Live food is great if you can get the variety, but with a quality fish food you'll get better control on what they get. The whole point of feeding live food is for the fat content. I simply raise the fat in their normal food.
I have seen 3 fry, different time ... went from bent back to a normal fish over night. I have also seen fish that I cull already for bent back turn into a bent fish also.
How do you add your vitamins?
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On 4/10/2022 at 1:32 PM, Ken Burke said:
Given the use of tidal 110s, bubble bar might be over kill. Won’t hurt, but it’s contribution is negligible.
The tanks will need more water for the pump to work. U can still get the waterfall effect, but the impeller must be in the water.
As a thought, use only one tidal, and ditch the intake extension on the remaining 110. Instead use an ACO power heads with a pre filter on the intake side of the tank, and run the output back to the tidal side. On the output, you can build a spray bars ( one low, about 1/4 up the tank, and one high, about 3/4 up the tank) to spread the flow across the width of the tank. You still get the rapid flow, but save a tidal 110.
u use the ACO power head, you can attach hoses to draw the water from the far side of the tank (like the tidal).
Yes! Thanks. Your'e right, the height of the impeller would be an impediment. Don't know what I was thinking!
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Corresponding with @Odd Duck about the possibility of breeding Gold Nugget Plecos, I went down a NERM-hole today, and began imagining what a proper breeding setup might look like.
They are notoriously "impossible" to breed in captivity. That is what most inspires me to want to try!
Another contact had shared this YouTube short from Oliver Knott:
Which got me thinking about how to majorly boost flow. So I decided to sketch something up. I'm imagining maybe a 55 gal tank here (dimensions look more like a 40 gal breeder) but a 75 gal would be fine too. For HOB filters on the side, I am imagining something like 2x Tidal 110 for TONS of flow. I'm also thinking of the larger, powerful HYDOR Koralia pumps.
So in photos, from empty tank to set-up...
The goal is a very sloshy tank. Of course heating elements could be added along the back. Yes, this could probably be done with canister filters too. As for greens, I think that roots reaching in along the back from a strategically selected plant tray set up behind on a shelf would be a good way to deal with nitrate buildup.
What do you all think? Any suggestions? Improvements? Lets group-source this thing, and break the internet by breeding Gold Nugget Plecos here on the Forum!
Here is an in situ video showing them being caught from river rapids...
Some keys: WARM (ca. 87-degrees), oxygen rich -- maybe add a bubble bar underneath the powerheads in tank set up. Lots of proper food needed.
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On 4/10/2022 at 10:23 AM, Ken Burke said:
Just ordered stuff to build the floating breeder box!
I add some silicone or water-proof sealant around the top and bottom edge of the styrofoam to make sure the collar doesn't move.
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La Liga - Levante vs. F.C. Barcelona 3:00 pm ET - ESPN+
Levante is in the relegation zone, fighting to stay in the top tier. Barcelona, with a game in hand, is looking to secure the 2nd place spot. If the Blaugrana wins today, they will be level on points with Sevilla with a match in hand, but ahead on goal differentials, putting them in 2nd place behind Los Blancos.
Pique is resting, opening the door for defender Eric Garcia to step up and shine. Unfortunately, looks like Ansu Fati is still in injury recovery -- though he's started training again with the first team.
The match is away, at Levante stadium. Hope it's a clean match!
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They do change color a fair bit. Lighting, water chemistry, lifestage, food, stress . . . all of these are factors. When they multiply, young shrimp do not always have the same level of vibrancy as adults. In time, some color up very well. Others tend to lean towards wild-type colors over a few generations. Cull if you want color!
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On 4/10/2022 at 8:22 AM, JoefishGofish said:
So after breeding my Rainbow Shiners for a year and a half or so I just produced a batch with about 20 or so fry with crooked spines.
The eggs had a 20-30% death rate.
Yikes.
However, The following group of eggs/fry were all fine so I’m wondering if it was1) a bacteria problem (water quality)
2) really tough eggs and they couldn’t bust out before injuring themselves
3) genetics
4) bad batch/bad luck
Any thoughts? Like I said the next group that are swimming now are all perfect.
Cheering you on! I love your Rainbow Shiner successes. @WhitecloudDynasty really got me hooked on them.
Sometimes, if there is a major difference between water eggs were laid in and water eggs hatched in, there are difficulties that result. The way one Killi breeder explained it to me was that the eggs themselves have certain naturally occurring "salts" that tend to explode outward when eggs are moved from hard water over to soft water for hatching.
Now, this may not at all have been your situation. If the next group are from the same brooders, I'd doubt the problem is genetics. I have never heard of bacterial infections causing bent spines.
Anyway, keep going! You're an inspiration!
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I use the Omega One veggie sinking mini pellets. They've got enough protein that everyone likes them. But greens are packed in...
Honorable mentions include Omega One Kelp Flakes, Bug Bites Spirulina Flakes, and Omega One Veggie Rounds...
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On 4/9/2022 at 11:52 PM, Ken Burke said:
Outstanding videos! Now I got questions.
Is a 20 gal high large enough for single pair of angels? I pulled all the fish outta my 20t, now it houses shrimp and only shrimp.
did keeping the light on help keep the parents for eating the eggs?
I liked your use of a Specimen Container to pull the eggs. Will the one Aquarium Coop sells work?
How much h2o2 did you use?
A 20 gal high is OK or breeding, or raising fry. But in the end, Angels most likely will need larger digs. I'd say a 29 gal is the smallest I'd venture for a full Angel lifetime. 55 gal is even better.
Our angels spawned a number of times. I think that most of the time, when we didn't pull eggs, they ate them -- even when we left the lights on. But one time, if I recall, they left them alone over night.
We've leveled up now, and no longer use specimen containers. Instead, I DIY-adapted a fry tray from Dean Tweeddale's fish room design. You can review the whole build here.
In two quick snapshots, it looks like this:
Here's a video I took today showing a batch of GBR fry that I raised this past month -- zero water changes, apart form the weekly WC i do for the overall tank. Loads of molm. But look at them! They're fantastic! This is what you want to do to raise Angels:
I use 1/2 ml every 12 hrs for 3x total doses (e.g. evening / morning / evening). But with the flow-through, it's probably not as essential to measure perfectly. 1 ml would be alright. Just don't squirt the H2O2 directly on the eggs. Let it more or less dissipate through the container.
You can track the most recent project with the GBRs here, go to the bottom of page 9.
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A Heavy Flow Aquarium Design for Breeding Gold Nugget Plecos
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@nabokovfan87 That's great help! Thanks much. If I was setting this up myself right now, I'd definitely want to test all of these ideas out. At present, I'm focussed on other projects. I'd love to try a high flow set up though.
I'm wondering what you'd think of something like this? (substrate / hardscape added, of course)