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One final update for anyone else in my situation - all of the snails are now back in the tank and thriving! I think the March introduction may have been a bit fast (nerite started asking a little strange) so I ended up running carbon for another month, but looks like we are now fully in the clear from both a planaria and a snail perspective.
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Shrimp Keepers: "I didn't realize until keeping shrimp that..."
Mojie replied to nabokovfan87's topic in General Discussion
If multiple berried females hatch their eggs out in your quarantine tank you’re going to have to keep it running for months longer than planned because catching 1 million speck-sized babies one at a time with a pipette just isn’t going to happen. 🤠 -
That’s too bad - they’re cool critters but I understand the concerns about invasive species. I’m in Ontario where they’re hard to find (maybe subject to an import ban?), but every once in a while they pop up at pond centres. I’ve never found the elusive blue ones though… maybe one day!
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Coming back with an update! The No-Planaria worked beautifully, and I haven’t seen a single one since the last treatment. I just reintroduced one nerite to the tank today, and so far so good! She is cruising around very happily, disturbing decor and generally being her chaotic self. I’m keeping a very close eye, but I’m hopeful that I’ll be able to move the remaining snails back soon!
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While I’m a Japanese trapdoor lover at heart, I also have zebra and marbled limpet neritres that I adore. Both are great algae eaters and pretty active, but the limpet nerite tends to stick to glass and rocks (she’s a great glass cleaner), while the zebra cruises the whole tank, including plants, wood and substrate. The limpet does lay eggs, but probably at about 1/3rd of the rate of the zebra. Her only drawback is that she’s damn near impossible to move - you really can’t pry them off the glass without risking serious injury to the snail. When I had to relocate her to another tank to treat for planaria, I had to wait until she was on the glass near the bottom of the tank. Once I found her there, I wedged a shot glass over her, and checked multiple times per day until I caught her climbing on the shot glass, at which point I was able to relocate the whole shot glass, snail and all, to the temporary tank. It was a multi-day process, so if you’re looking for a nerite that you can move between tanks they’re definitely not the one for you. Otherwise, I think limpet nerites are a really cool, under-appreciated option for keeping your glass squeaky clean!
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I appreciate the sympathy - it was a tough, guilt-inducing reminder to quarantine everything, especially if you live somewhere that makes meds hard/impossible to come by. Salt is definitely a good call, but luckily for me the h2o2 did the trick in my case. Hopefully if OP *is* dealing with something bacterial they’ll have similar luck turning it around.
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Did you introduce any new shrimp, fish, or inverts recently? I had a bad experience previously with some sort of bacterial infection absolutely ravaging my tank after introducing a few new shrimp without quarantine (never again). I couldn’t figure it out until I noticed one of the resident guppies had also developed severe fin rot despite seemingly great parameters, presumably caused by whatever bacteria was running amok. I’m in Canada where antibiotics aren’t available OTC so I resorted to several high doses of hydrogen peroxide over a few days and big water changes, which saved the fish and the small handful of surviving shrimp. ETA: I pulled my nerites before treating the tank because I can’t find consistent info about their hydrogen peroxide tolerance.
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I love having a few amanos mixed in with my neos for exactly this reason. The scale difference make them both look even more amazing.
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That’s a great tip for the future! This time around I’m going to just repurpose mine in a terrarium and switch to something inert for the tank - between this and a planaria outbreak my poor supreme pumpkins have been through it lately!
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Hey all! Just wanted to post this here in case anyone faces a similar mystery. I noticed some molting problems in my neocaradina recently in my 15 gallon planted cube. I originally chalked it up to diet because I’d been experimenting with some different foods, but stepping up their calcium didn’t help, and the losses were piling up. Then I realized my GH was through the absolute roof! I think I stopped counting at 22. My water is hard, but not that hard. I did a series of big water changes, including using some RO water and got it down, but it kept shooting back up. Last week I realized the culprit - the huge pile of seiryu stone in my tank. My best guess is that it was leeching a little calcium carbonate at first which was fine, but as the tank aged and humic substances built up, the rate of leeching accelerated rapidly. I’ve pulled the stone, am continuing the high frequency water changes and things are already trending in the right direction. I just wanted to post this here because while I knew it could increase your hardness a bit, I had no idea how significant the changes could be and wanted to flag it for anyone else trying to save their little friends from the white ring of death!
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No Planaria has been ordered, as well as a sponge filter for the snail jail and carbon. I’ll let you all know how it goes in case anyone else finds this helpful/useful in the future. Thank you all so much for the help - I really appreciate it!
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Thank you - this is exactly the kind of intel I was hoping for.
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Thank you - I’ve got the traps going now. My concern with the no planaria is keeping my pet snails alive. Would you have a sense of how long I would have to run carbon, water change, etc. before I could put the snails back in the tank after treating? I’d have to keep them in a vase or bucket in the meantime.
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Yeah - I’m losing about a shrimp per day to them. I have a big colony so it’s not a crisis yet, but I feel so bad for the little guys. 😞
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It’s a 15 gallon cube, I’ve got a small school of guppies in it but they don’t seem interested. Do you think it’s worth holding back food for a few days and seeing if they go for them? I’ve thought about it, but I worry I’ll just be training them to eat my baby shrimp lol.
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Hi all - hoping for some advice on the best way to deal with a planaria invasion. I think they hitchhiked in with some guppies I recently added to my heavily planted neocaradina tank. I have tried cutting feeding way back and glass traps to no avail, so I’m starting to look at chemical treatments. My complication is that I have three snails (two nerite and a Japanese trap door) in the tank that I adore and no other tanks to move them to. Unfortunately I can’t set up a second tank without violating my condo bylaws. Since it is just the three of them, taking them out of the tank for a few days and popping them in a bucket while I treat it shouldn’t be an issue. I’ve heard mixed things about when a tank would be safe to put snails back into after dosing with No Planaria (or a different alternative). Does anyone have recommendations for how I can treat the tank and keep my snail-buddies alive and well? You’ll have my eternal gratitude.
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So awesome to watch this tank come back to life - it’s really lovely that someone is looking out for those fish, and they’re lucky to have you.
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@gardenman just wanted to say thanks again! This suggestion led to some phone tag and I’ve now got a lead on a shipment coming in this week. I’d been out of the hobby for a while and never kept snails/planted tanks before now, so I might not have gotten there without your help!
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Thank you! I really appreciate the tip.
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Has anyone come across Japanese Trapdoor snails in Ontario/Canada that are either in Toronto or in a store that might be willing to ship? They *are* legal in my province. I’ve only come across one place in Canada shipping them, and I can’t make the minimum spend without buying a ton of stuff I don’t need. Grateful for any leads!
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I’m new to the forum but wanted to chime in and say how awesome it is to see so many people voicing concerns about ethical breeding and quality of life for their fish - feeling like most hobbyists around me weren’t concerned with that was part of what pushed me out of fishkeeping previously. My personal dislike is anything veiltailed - they sometimes photograph well, but IRL look kind of droopy and sad to me.
