Spotted Congo Puffer First Fry

[TheSwissAquarist]

On 11/12/2023 at 11:26 AM, DanielBlub said:

Hello guys, 

my name is Daniel and i am from germany. Pls excuse me for my bad english, but i try my best.

I try to breed the puffer fish too. Currently I managed to get 7 of him big on the first try. These are now 8 weeks old. On my second attempt, I only got 2 large larvae out of over 300, they are now 4 weeks old. I also feed parameciums in lagre quantities, but i think that still wasn´t enough. Do you habe a trick for geeding a lot, wihtout polutuing the water too much? The pichtures shows how i try to breed them.

 

Hallo, ich lebe in der Schweiz! 
Mountaintoppufferkeeper züchtet Artemien für seine jungen Puffern. Machen Sie auch das? 

[DanielBlub]

On 11/13/2023 at 1:12 PM, TheSwissAquarist said:

Hallo, ich lebe in der Schweiz! 
Mountaintoppufferkeeper züchtet Artemien für seine jungen Puffern. Machen Sie auch das? 

Hallo, ja das mache ich auch. In großen mengen sogar. Aber was ich bis jetzt feststellen konnte ist, das die Fische erst nach frühestens 15-20 Tagen Artemien fressen. Ich habe das Problem davor, das mit in dieser Zeit die meisten versterben.

[DaveO]

I once knew a bit of German, so I  thought I might understand this, aber ich habe keine Ahnung.

 

[DanielBlub]

He ask: Did u feed Aremia (Brine Shrimps)?

I Say: Yes, a lot oft him. I breed them in 4 JBL breeders. But my Problem ist, the tiniy fish in first 2 weeks, dont eat them. An the time from day one to day ~15 is my problem. I this time, the most baby fish are dieing. 

[nabokovfan87]

On 11/13/2023 at 11:07 AM, DaveO said:

ich habe keine Ahnung.

Love it. This is my favorite phrase from trying to learn a bit of a foreign language in school.

[DaveO]

So Matthew Proctor, who you know here as @mountaintoppufferkeeper, wrote an interesting article in Amazonas magazine (Jan/Feb 2023 issue) on this very topic. In the article he describes his technique of slow water change and filtration. That's all I can say because I don't want to speak out of turn. If you can get hold of a copy it should help.

[mountaintoppufferkeeper]

On 11/13/2023 at 2:27 PM, DaveO said:

So Matthew Proctor, who you know here as @mountaintoppufferkeeper, wrote an interesting article in Amazonas magazine (Jan/Feb 2023 issue) on this very topic. In the article he describes his technique of slow water change and filtration. That's all I can say because I don't want to speak out of turn. If you can get hold of a copy it should help.

thanks for the mention @DaveO. @DanielBlub i like to use a floating ring like you have in a bigger tank to keep the water quality up between water changes, I use polyfilter cubes, that change color based off of what they absorb, to see how the water is doing daily.

I dont think I can feed enough paramecium to grow large numbers of spotted congo fry past 5 days but i do think I can make enough infusoria and paramecium to feed them for the firat 14 days. 

I feed the baby puffers paranecium 2-3 times a day and feed infusoria at the same time. That seems to keep the food around the puffer fry longer especially if my light source is somewhat concentrated on the sides of the ring.

I squeeze out a sponge filter from the adult puffer tank into a glass jar to start my infusoria culture. 

Grindal worms have also been helpful i culture those on scrubber pads and dog kibble. 

I feed the larger fry whiteworms i also grow on scrubber pads and kibble. 

 

[TheSwissAquarist]

On 11/13/2023 at 9:36 PM, nabokovfan87 said:

Love it. This is my favorite phrase from trying to learn a bit of a foreign language in school.

It has a nice ring to it. 😂

Do you think that small rotifers would be any good @mountaintoppufferkeeper? 

[DanielBlub]

Thank you mountaintoppufferkeeper 

About the polyfilter, is this the sponge who change his color if it dedects nitrit? If yes, i know waht u mean, and this is a good idea.

You talk abaut waterchange, how many waterchange are u doing and how much % did you do each?

[mountaintoppufferkeeper]

On 11/14/2023 at 8:42 AM, DanielBlub said:

Thank you mountaintoppufferkeeper 

About the polyfilter, is this the sponge who change his color if it dedects nitrit? If yes, i know waht u mean, and this is a good idea.

You talk abaut waterchange, how many waterchange are u doing and how much % did you do each?

I tend to run a large amount of live plants in my puffer tanks to help keep the water cleaner and grow that infusoria and other small foods. 

Yes the color change polyfilter . I cut it into small cubes and judge the water quality visually. For me it is just a little insurance between water changes. 

I am mostly using it for Organic Wastes: which it absorbs as itchanges to light tan and progresses to dark brown. For me it has been extremely helpful. 

I probably change 25% of the main tank water a week and use airline to siphon out  any excess debris in the ring as needed daily being careful to avoid the puffer fry .

If my polyfilter changes color too fast would try 25% ever 3 days here. I do not want too much fluctuation in the parameters especially in their first few weeks of growth

[DanielBlub]

THX for your informations. I orderd now exact this polyfilter.

I use 3 aquariums for my Puffers.

An 55 liter dennerle tank for the puffers who are 1cm+, and 2 "IKEA Kallax" tanks wiht 25Liters for the eggs and jung puffers (check pictures). 

But i can´t find the error, why only 2 for 300 puffers survived in my last try. I use extrem clan water from an osmosis system, mixed with freshwater salt to get:

KH 3, (Carbonat)

GH 5 (overall hardness)

PH ~6,5 

NO2 0

~26°C

 .....

 

[mountaintoppufferkeeper]

On 11/14/2023 at 10:15 AM, DanielBlub said:

THX for your informations. I orderd now exact this polyfilter.

I use 3 aquariums for my Puffers.

An 55 liter dennerle tank for the puffers who are 1cm+, and 2 "IKEA Kallax" tanks wiht 25Liters for the eggs and jung puffers (check pictures). 

But i can´t find the error, why only 2 for 300 puffers survived in my last try. I use extrem clan water from an osmosis system, mixed with freshwater salt to get:

KH 3, (Carbonat)

GH 5 (overall hardness)

PH ~6,5 

NO2 0

~26°C

 .....

 

That looks amazing. I hatch in the ring and use that to contain the fry with the food for the first few weeks or more. 

 Initial days.... plants in ring

More advanced... still in ring

i waited until they were eating grindal worms and trying the bigger whiteworms to release my last batch into the 20 gallon / 75 liter. If i keep them full to brineshrimp and grindal worm size, which is generally at a few weeks old, they seem to all make it

[Shawnmrose1983911]

That’s awesome congrats 

[DanielBlub]

Did u use the polyfilter only as an idicator for the water quality or put u more in the tank to get a better water quality?