Liz hughes Posted October 20, 2020 Author Share Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) Tank # 2 20 g Temp 78. 20% wc weekly stt 6m stocking 5 female bettas 15 cpd 1 Albino LF BN unknown number of ghost and amano shrimp. Edited October 20, 2020 by Liz hughes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz hughes Posted October 20, 2020 Author Share Posted October 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Liz hughes said: Tank # 2 20 g Temp 78. 20% wc weekly stt 6m stocking 5 female bettas 15 cpd 1 Albino LF BN unknown number of ghost and amano shrimp. Female bettas don’t fight however they get dropsy once in a while and pass so I replace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz hughes Posted October 21, 2020 Author Share Posted October 21, 2020 Anyone able to keep helping ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Sorry, yesterday was a busy day🙂 How are the fish doing in the tank? What is your overall assessment and or goals for the tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaredL Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Your tank 2 definitely looked like it has ammonia. I think getting that to 0 consistently should be your first goal. Unless I'm reading that wrong. Kind of confusing since you do appear to have nitrates but no nitrites. Have you tested water from tap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz hughes Posted October 21, 2020 Author Share Posted October 21, 2020 14 minutes ago, Daniel said: Sorry, yesterday was a busy day🙂 How are the fish doing in the tank? What is your overall assessment and or goals for the tank. I lost a few more platys but everyone is doing well so far today. Eating and more active since I lowered the temp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz hughes Posted October 21, 2020 Author Share Posted October 21, 2020 13 minutes ago, JaredL said: Your tank 2 definitely looked like it has ammonia. I think getting that to 0 consistently should be your first goal. Unless I'm reading that wrong. Kind of confusing since you do appear to have nitrates but no nitrites. Have you tested water from tap? I took the photo late but it was showing as 0 as it dries it turns green. Instructions say to read right away and it always yellow at that point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Liz hughes said: I lost a few more platys but everyone is doing well so far today. Eating and more active since I lowered the temp Glad to hear it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz hughes Posted October 21, 2020 Author Share Posted October 21, 2020 Just now, Sleepy said: Glad to hear it! I added salt this morning to help them 1 Tbsp per 5 gallons 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz hughes Posted October 21, 2020 Author Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) Goals from my understanding is lower temp ✅, deworm again the is a week or two and keeping up with extra feeds to put weight on them as they are all skinny. Today that’s big tank got bloodworms 😀 Edited October 21, 2020 by Liz hughes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaredL Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, Liz hughes said: I took the photo late but it was showing as 0 as it dries it turns green. Instructions say to read right away and it always yellow at that point That's good. It sounds like you're getting good advice here on how to help those mistreated fish. I would definitely suggest looking into quarantine for future rescues before adding to community. That way you aren't adding stress to your healthy fish while treating the sick ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz hughes Posted October 21, 2020 Author Share Posted October 21, 2020 1 minute ago, JaredL said: That's good. It sounds like you're getting good advice here on how to help those mistreated fish. I would definitely suggest looking into quarantine for future rescues before adding to community. That way you aren't adding stress to your healthy fish while treating the sick ones. I am 😀 should be here by Sunday 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz hughes Posted October 22, 2020 Author Share Posted October 22, 2020 Does anyone see room for improvement in my second tank? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Pearl Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Regarding your Tank 1 Platy issue, if things don't improve, you could consider moving them to a 'hospital tank'. Maybe a 20 gallon depending on how many fish are alive by that point. The challenge with your 80g tank is you have to add soooo much meds to treat 80 gallons and you are treating your other fish unnecessarily which may be causing stress for them. The added benefit of a hospital tank is if there is any stress on the fish caused by other fish in the tank, this potential problem will be removed. The smaller tank will make medicating, temp regulation, salting, water changes and observation much easier. Go bare bottom with a sponge filter if you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Pearl Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Regarding your Betta Tank 2 - Take a break - If your fish continue dying, please don't introduce new fish into that. Solve the problem first. If they end up all dying it may be something in the tank. At that point you can 'sanitize' the tank and start over. To start solving the problem move the fish or the shrimp as I don't think the shrimp will like salt. Once separated, try salt and if you can antibiotics for bacteria. i would be looking for causes as this seems to keep happening. This may be a stress issue. Considering you have a tank full of female bettas, they may be attacking each other and when you add a new fish, the 'territories' the other fish have staked out become 'challenged' by the 'invader'. @Cory does not recommend betta sorority tanks for this reason. I have no idea if this is your issue, but it is something worth looking for. I hope I've helped some. Good Luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz hughes Posted October 22, 2020 Author Share Posted October 22, 2020 8 hours ago, Dandy Pearl said: Regarding your Tank 1 Platy issue, if things don't improve, you could consider moving them to a 'hospital tank'. Maybe a 20 gallon depending on how many fish are alive by that point. The challenge with your 80g tank is you have to add soooo much meds to treat 80 gallons and you are treating your other fish unnecessarily which may be causing stress for them. The added benefit of a hospital tank is if there is any stress on the fish caused by other fish in the tank, this potential problem will be removed. The smaller tank will make medicating, temp regulation, salting, water changes and observation much easier. Go bare bottom with a sponge filter if you can. I’m getting a hospital tank on Sunday! It’s a 10g. Hopefully it helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz hughes Posted October 22, 2020 Author Share Posted October 22, 2020 8 hours ago, Dandy Pearl said: Regarding your Betta Tank 2 - Take a break - If your fish continue dying, please don't introduce new fish into that. Solve the problem first. If they end up all dying it may be something in the tank. At that point you can 'sanitize' the tank and start over. To start solving the problem move the fish or the shrimp as I don't think the shrimp will like salt. Once separated, try salt and if you can antibiotics for bacteria. i would be looking for causes as this seems to keep happening. This may be a stress issue. Considering you have a tank full of female bettas, they may be attacking each other and when you add a new fish, the 'territories' the other fish have staked out become 'challenged' by the 'invader'. @Cory does not recommend betta sorority tanks for this reason. I have no idea if this is your issue, but it is something worth looking for. I hope I've helped some. Good Luck! No one has gotten dropsy in about 3 weeks or so. They don’t seem to fight. The odd chase but with the amount of plants it only lasts like 10 secs. I read that you should keep the numbers odd and around 5 in a 20g with dither fish. That’s why I kept adding. I work in my fishroom so I keep a close eye. I haven’t see any fights or stress signs other then apparently dropsy? So much to learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 @Liz hughes if you treat the fish with antibiotics, and they are able to eat, I'd recommend mixing it in food over putting it in the water. In the directions for Kanaplex they tell you how to make it (also using Focus): Seachem - KanaPlex WWW.SEACHEM.COM Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz hughes Posted October 22, 2020 Author Share Posted October 22, 2020 5 hours ago, Bill said: @Liz hughes if you treat the fish with antibiotics, and they are able to eat, I'd recommend mixing it in food over putting it in the water. In the directions for Kanaplex they tell you how to make it (also using Focus): Seachem - KanaPlex WWW.SEACHEM.COM Good luck! Thank you, I'm Canadian so I’m not sure I can get those but maybe they are available? I will google Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Pearl Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 It sounds like your betta tank is doing better. That's good. I hope you get things worked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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