Liz hughes Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 I need someone to teach me more about fish keeping. I’m learning as I go but would enjoy constructive criticism, that is aimed at giving my fish the best lives. I have 8 tanks and would like to go through them one by one. I want to start with my 80g bowfront as I’m losing platys in it. Right now they have anti biotics in the water. However I truly don’t know what’s wrong. Please be kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBOzzie59 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 To get us rolling. From the "Diseases" forum. To ensure the best level of help, please include the following: A Picture of the fish with decent clarity of the disease.Water Parameters: pH Nitrates Hardness Nitrite Ammonia KH/Buffer Water Temperature Follow0 Start new topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz hughes Posted October 20, 2020 Author Share Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) Tank # 1, gets water change 1 time a week 50%, temp 84 F. STT 3 months stock unknown number of platys guessing 45 ( they were rescues) 12 zebra danios 11 panda corys 4 angelfish 16 amano shrimp 12 harlequin raspboras 2 GBR 1 albino LF BN 1 clown pleco 1 male betta 1 female betta I will test water and post in a bit Edited October 20, 2020 by Liz hughes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sleepy Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 The first thing that jumps out at me is assuming you are keeping the tank at 84 degrees for the GBR's that is too high for the rest of the fish that you are keeping in that tank. Secondly what type of issue are you having that you are using antibiotics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Looks like we were posting at the same time 🙂 if that ammonia test is not at zero thats also an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz hughes Posted October 20, 2020 Author Share Posted October 20, 2020 Ok so what temp should I be at? Who needs to be rehoused? My ammonia is testing at ideal to safe 0-0.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz hughes Posted October 20, 2020 Author Share Posted October 20, 2020 My fish start by flashing and then wiggle and then refuse food and then pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KBOzzie59 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Not really sure you need to rehouse anyone. I have GBR thriving in 74 degrees and 77 degrees. Maybe drop the temp to 78 and watch your rams. If they start acting wonky they will probably need a new tank. But IMHO 84 is a bit warm for platties, not sure about the rest there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz hughes Posted October 20, 2020 Author Share Posted October 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, KBOzzie59 said: Not really sure you need to rehouse anyone. I have GBR thriving in 74 degrees and 77 degrees. Maybe drop the temp to 78 and watch your rams. If they start acting wonky they will probably need a new tank. But IMHO 84 is a bit warm for platties, not sure about the rest there. Ok temp is down to 78 😍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Is everything else except for the platys doing reasonably well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz hughes Posted October 20, 2020 Author Share Posted October 20, 2020 Yes no other deaths just the platys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBOzzie59 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Did the rescue involve quarantine before they went to their current tank? Do you know the parameters of the original home by chance (specifically the temp)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 When did you add the platys? Did you quarantine them first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz hughes Posted October 20, 2020 Author Share Posted October 20, 2020 1 minute ago, KBOzzie59 said: Did the rescue involve quarantine before they went to their current tank? Do you know the parameters of the original home by chance (specifically the temp)? I don’t know much other then they weren’t fed for 6 weeks. I didn’t qt them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz hughes Posted October 20, 2020 Author Share Posted October 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Sleepy said: When did you add the platys? Did you quarantine them first? I didn’t qt them and the wiggle symptoms death had been going on a while before I got the rescues. Saying this all out loud is embarrassing Hahahahah but I need to learn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBOzzie59 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Food for thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Tank # 1, gets water change 1 time a week 50%, temp 84 F. unknown number of platys guessing 45 - like hardish water mid 70's but can tolerate warm, native to Mexico and Central America 12 zebra danios - Asian tough as nails, really don't care what kind of water they are in, if you kill these, you are the problem 11 panda corys - South American, softer more acidic water preferred but flexible 4 angelfish - South American, softer more acidic water preferred but flexible 16 amano shrimp - I don't know much about Amano shrimp 12 harlequin raspboras - South Asian fish that inhabit blackwater habitats similar to your South American fish 2 GBR - South American, softer more acidic warmer water preferred found in backwaters and oxbows 1 albino LF BN - South American, softer more acidic water preferred but flexible 1 clown pleco - South American, softer more acidic water preferred but flexible 1 male betta - South Asian found in warm shallow low oxygen ditches and flooded areas 1 female betta - South Asian found in warm shallow low oxygen ditches If it were me, I would knock the temperature back to the 78 - 82 range, but the 84 degrees isn't killing any fish, it is just a touch on the warm side. All your fish are pretty tough and flexible and not too picky about water parameters, but notice that the platys just come from a different environment from all your other fish. Nothing about the parameters of your tank should be killing platys, I just wouldn't keep them in that tank. And while you've been posting, I have been typing this...it just wasn't a good batch of platys to begin with. It happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 11 minutes ago, Liz hughes said: I didn’t qt them and the wiggle symptoms death had been going on a while before I got the rescues. Saying this all out loud is embarrassing Hahahahah but I need to learn No worries sounds like you were trying to do the right thing then and the right thing now also sounds like they were treated very poorly which sucks 😞 to go with that they were probably in poor water conditions so doing a slow acclimation with them would have been good as well so they dont go into shock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz hughes Posted October 20, 2020 Author Share Posted October 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, KBOzzie59 said: Food for thought. I can’t get that med tho i am Canadian. I have a dewormer my I have already dewormed 2 times ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz hughes Posted October 20, 2020 Author Share Posted October 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, Sleepy said: No worries sounds like you were trying to do the right thing then and the right thing now also sounds like they were treated very poorly which sucks 😞 to go with that they were probably in poor water conditions so doing a slow acclimation with them would have been good as well so they dont go into shock. What can I do now to that tank to give them the best chance ? I turned down the temp to 78. I’m treating with oxytetrcycline atm but after a Wc I could switch them to my dewormer flubendazole ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Liz hughes said: What can I do now to that tank to give them the best chance ? I turned down the temp to 78. I’m treating with oxytetrcycline atm but after a Wc I could switch them to my dewormer flubendazole ? If you've already done that twice I wouldnt do it again at least not until a few weeks have passed. More than anything I would be worried about something bacterial especially at the elevated temps they were at seems to allow for more bacteria to thrive. I'm not as familiar with oxytetrcycline I would suggest salt but looks like you have plants in the tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Don't do too much. Just because the platys aren't doing well doesn't mean it will spread to the other fish. Usually it is the interventions that kill the fish and not the original problem. If your other fish look and act fine, nothing is likely to change with them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz hughes Posted October 20, 2020 Author Share Posted October 20, 2020 18 minutes ago, Sleepy said: If you've already done that twice I wouldnt do it again at least not until a few weeks have passed. More than anything I would be worried about something bacterial especially at the elevated temps they were at seems to allow for more bacteria to thrive. I'm not as familiar with oxytetrcycline I would suggest salt but looks like you have plants in the tank. The oxy stuff is suppose to cure bacterial infections. so I’m told Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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