Need help diagnosing my betta fish

[Kaining]

We have a Koi betta fish and is sick for some reason.

The pictures of his current condition is in the attached links.

He has a very swollen lip and holes in the fins.

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/19GWQrXi7A5ssy1wYk0-BAfduDWoz2kwG/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1h8dZDO7iwpheXCYqWYNdOXq8TRA137eF/view?usp=sharing

 

What would you recommend us to do to save him?

We just bought Microbe-lift Artemiss-natural expellant for bacterial diseases from Petco. We were advised to add it into our 4-gallon tank and change 75% of tank water for 3 days straight.

 

Could someone give some advise?

Thank you!

[Colu]

It could be a bacterial infection it difficult to tell off picture i have not use that med before I I would treat with aquarium salt 1 table spoon for 3 gallons a long side the antibacterial medication

[Kaining]

Thank you Colu! I believe what I got from Petco is antibacterial medication. Now I'll go get some aquarium salt and see if it helps.

Thanks!!!

[Mr_Manifesto]

This could be a disease, but it might be something else.  How long have you had this fish?   What are you feeding him?    Do you know any of the water parameters of the tank?   pH, Temp, ammonia, nitrites?  Might be poor water quality, might be poor food quality.  It might be the fish is being kept too cold for a betta.   Salt won't hurt either way, so I'd start with that, but if the water quality isn't good, salt isn't going to do much.

Edited January 18, 2021 by Mr_Manifesto

[FrozenFins]

Is the fish still eating? How long have you had it? Has it always had a swollen lip? whats the temp. of your water? Honestly salt won't hurt but I wouldn't worry too much. It could be a bacterial infection but I'm not sure. If the fish is still eating just watch it closely.

[Kaining]

Hi James, no the fish is not eating. Should I keep feeding him..?

I have had him for four months. He never had a mouth this swollen. The water temperature is around 79F. 

I put in the antibacterial medication and acquarium salt yesterday. Now he seems to be getting worse... There are more holes on his fin.

[FrozenFins]

5 minutes ago, Kaining said:

Hi James, no the fish is not eating. Should I keep feeding him..?

I have had him for four months. He never had a mouth this swollen. The water temperature is around 79F. 

I put in the antibacterial medication and acquarium salt yesterday. Now he seems to be getting worse... There are more holes on his fin.

I would try 

-Salt Bath

-Maracyn Treatment

Do the salt bath one day. And then the next day to a salt and marcyn treatment for the next week.

Edited January 18, 2021 by James Black

[Kaining]

4 hours ago, Mr_Manifesto said:

This could be a disease, but it might be something else.  How long have you had this fish?   What are you feeding him?    Do you know any of the water parameters of the tank?   pH, Temp, ammonia, nitrites?  Might be poor water quality, might be poor food quality.  It might be the fish is being kept too cold for a betta.   Salt won't hurt either way, so I'd start with that, but if the water quality isn't good, salt isn't going to do much.

Hi Mr_Manifesto,

I have had him for four months. The water temperature is around 79F. We always fed him FLUVIAL bug bites. But 3-4 days ago we tried feeding him frozen blood worms. He ate three blood worms on the first day. Seemed to like it. We stopped the FLUVIAL bug bites after he started eating the frozen worms. I am testing the water parameters now.

Thank you for your reply!

[Kaining]

1 minute ago, James Black said:

I would try 

-Salt Bath

-Maracyn Treatment

Thank you so much!

😭

[Kaining]

41 minutes ago, Kaining said:

Thank you so much!

😭

I guess one more question is woud you suggest keep throwing food in there like usual when he's so sick..?

Thanks!

[Colu]

I would give  smaller amounts of food if he not eating as much 

[Kaining]

Thank you. Just tried. He's not eating.

Edited January 18, 2021 by Kaining

[Kaining]

6 hours ago, Mr_Manifesto said:

This could be a disease, but it might be something else.  How long have you had this fish?   What are you feeding him?    Do you know any of the water parameters of the tank?   pH, Temp, ammonia, nitrites?  Might be poor water quality, might be poor food quality.  It might be the fish is being kept too cold for a betta.   Salt won't hurt either way, so I'd start with that, but if the water quality isn't good, salt isn't going to do much.

The water is pH6 but we only have basic pH test paper. Maybe we should go get a water parameter test kit.

[Colu]

Liquid tests are more accurate than test strips put some crushed oyster shell in your filter to raise your ph

Edited January 18, 2021 by Colu

[Mr_Manifesto]

Temp look good, pH is a bit low, but shouldn't be causing these issues.   Add a little bit of crushed coral to the tank would help buffer this a bit higher.   The food you're feeding is good stuff.  My experience is bettas will overeat and cause themselves issues.   Does his belly look swollen, like he ate too much?   Bettas are susceptible to intestinal blockages if they tend to overeat.  Unless there is some ammonia or nitrite issue, I'd say the tank parameters are fine.  Hopefully the salt and meds do the trick.  

[Kaining]

On 1/19/2021 at 2:57 AM, Mr_Manifesto said:

Temp look good, pH is a bit low, but shouldn't be causing these issues.   Add a little bit of crushed coral to the tank would help buffer this a bit higher.   The food you're feeding is good stuff.  My experience is bettas will overeat and cause themselves issues.   Does his belly look swollen, like he ate too much?   Bettas are susceptible to intestinal blockages if they tend to overeat.  Unless there is some ammonia or nitrite issue, I'd say the tank parameters are fine.  Hopefully the salt and meds do the trick.  

Thank you for confirming that the food and tank parameters. I did not know they tend to overeat the good stuff:)) Will pay attention to that in the future!

Sadly our fish left us last night...

[Colu]

Sorry to hear he didn't make it