Fish Folk Posted May 12, 2023 Author Share Posted May 12, 2023 (edited) Pteronotropis stonei — Lowland Shiners. They are in with Swordtails and a random Goodeid. To me, these are the “Emperor Tetras” of NANF… Edited May 12, 2023 by Fish Folk 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AquaHobbyist123 Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 On 5/12/2023 at 2:25 PM, Fish Folk said: Pteronotropis stonei — Lowland Shiners. They are in with Swordtails and a random Goodeid. To me, these are the “Emperor Tetras” of NANF… They do Have a quite similar appearance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted May 26, 2023 Author Share Posted May 26, 2023 Male Fantail Darter really colored up from our backyard creek today… 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted June 16, 2023 Author Share Posted June 16, 2023 Got video footage of a nice fantail darter pair… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AquaHobbyist123 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 They're supposed to be in the Upper catawba, but I have a hard time telling the difference between fantail and carolina fantail darters. They are so similar! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted June 16, 2023 Author Share Posted June 16, 2023 On 6/16/2023 at 4:44 PM, AquaHobbyist123 said: They're supposed to be in the Upper catawba, but I have a hard time telling the difference between fantail and carolina fantail darters. They are so similar! They can look like Tessellated Darters if you’re not terribly familiar with both. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AquaHobbyist123 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 (edited) On 6/16/2023 at 5:33 PM, Fish Folk said: They can look like Tessellated Darters if you’re not terribly familiar with both. I'm very familiar with tesselated darters, find them all the time and can identify them easily. I can easily distinguish them from fantails/Carolina Fantails. I believe that fantails have more vertical bars than carolina fantails. The problem is I really just need a photo tank to distinguish between the two in the wild. Difficult to look down in a dipnet and ID correctly for tiny darters that aren't brightly colored. I believe I have only encountered Carolina Fantails thus far, after further research. Both E. flabellare and E. Brevespinum have similar front stubby dorsal fins, which is how I can tell its one of the two. There is not much info available on Carolina Fantails though. I do love tesselated darters. Keep a Group of em. Edited June 17, 2023 by AquaHobbyist123 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted June 23, 2023 Author Share Posted June 23, 2023 Enjoying watching these F1 Fireyblack Shiners mature. They’re difficult to acclimate if wild-caught (F0), but once they’re spawned in a tank, they’re easy to keep… For comparative reference, here’s a mature, spawning-colored, wild-caught specimen — used as a banner fish for NANFA… And here’s some stunning footage of them in the wild… I actually got mine from the guy who posted this footage! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardedbillygoat1975 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 @Fish Folkamazing! Can’t wait for you to get some big spawns of these and start distributing them! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted June 23, 2023 Author Share Posted June 23, 2023 37 minutes ago, Beardedbillygoat1975 said: @Fish Folkamazing! Can’t wait for you to get some big spawns of these and start distributing them! It's still a long wait yet. Maybe a year until they'll spawn for me. There's a technique another aquarist figured out with them. Once you get a spawning pair, isolate them in a spawning tank of ca. 29-40 gallons, he tosses in a Penguin HOB biowheel that sinks to the bottom. The FB Shiners dig down under that instinctively, and attached eggs to the ribbings in the biowheel. He lets them go at it for a while, then replaces the biowheel with a new one, and moves the one full of eggs over to an empty tank for fry to hatch. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitecloudDynasty Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 27 minutes ago, Fish Folk said: It's still a long wait yet. Maybe a year until they'll spawn for me. There's a technique another aquarist figured out with them. Once you get a spawning pair, isolate them in a spawning tank of ca. 29-40 gallons, he tosses in a Penguin HOB biowheel that sinks to the bottom. The FB Shiners dig down under that instinctively, and attached eggs to the ribbings in the biowheel. He lets them go at it for a while, then replaces the biowheel with a new one, and moves the one full of eggs over to an empty tank for fry to hatch. That's correct, that is how I bred mine also..but my males was very aggressive towards each other. I haven’t found a trait I want from them enough to want to breed them again 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardedbillygoat1975 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 Penguin biowheel!! Genius! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AquaHobbyist123 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 @Fish Folk I was out collecting in the Yadkin River a few days ago and caught what I think might have been a female fieryblack. Jumped out of my net as was trying to place in specimen container and its gone. 😠 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted June 23, 2023 Author Share Posted June 23, 2023 12 minutes ago, AquaHobbyist123 said: Jumped out of my net as was trying to place in specimen container and its gone. 😠 Bummer! Probably was. That YouTube video above was 2014, Catawba river… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardedbillygoat1975 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 I have an opportunity to get some Rainbow Dace, what say our resident native keepers? 60 g breeder kept at garage temp. Power heads on UGF and a 2217 Eheim for flow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted June 23, 2023 Author Share Posted June 23, 2023 13 minutes ago, Beardedbillygoat1975 said: I have an opportunity to get some Rainbow Dace, what say our resident native keepers? 60 g breeder kept at garage temp. Power heads on UGF and a 2217 Eheim for flow. As long as you add air enough over 70°-F, they do well in groups. A 60 should work! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardedbillygoat1975 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 @Fish Folkhow many to start in a 60? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardedbillygoat1975 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 Would these be a biowheel breeder? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted June 23, 2023 Author Share Posted June 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Beardedbillygoat1975 said: Would these be a biowheel breeder? No idea 😂 8 minutes ago, Beardedbillygoat1975 said: @Fish Folkhow many to start in a 60? 20x if species-only. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardedbillygoat1975 Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 (edited) Just saw this pic from Andrew Zimmerman Photography on FB and had to share! Edited June 29, 2023 by Beardedbillygoat1975 Edit 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted June 29, 2023 Author Share Posted June 29, 2023 On 6/28/2023 at 9:04 PM, Beardedbillygoat1975 said: Just saw this pic from Andrew Zimmerman Photography on FB and had to share! Awesome shot!! Andrew Z is a great NANF wizard & photographer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted July 4, 2023 Author Share Posted July 4, 2023 Tried out a new creek on the east edge of our county today… It didn’t yield much over 90 mins of poking around, but we did come across one Greenside Darter (Etheostoma blennoides)… 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted July 23, 2023 Author Share Posted July 23, 2023 Ameiurus melas - juvenile Black Bullhead. “Black” because of their black whiskers… From a cool, spring-fed water mountain pond. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted August 13, 2023 Author Share Posted August 13, 2023 (edited) An experiment: I’ve noticed that, after lights-out, my Notropis chlorocephalus (Catawba Greenhead Shiners) seem to fire up red. I find this when examining with a flashlight. So tonight, I rigged up a tiny desk lamp overnight to see if this triggers spawning. I do have Tessellated Darters and Fieryblack Shiners in there… maybe an unhelpful distraction, or egg-predation concern… but they are behaving much better, like they’re nearly ready to spawn. Another thing… I’m floating a bag with a 24 oz frozen Uline coldpak… Oh the things we breeders try 😂 Edited August 13, 2023 by Fish Folk 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AquaHobbyist123 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 Hope it works! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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