The endler guy Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 I was looking at my aquarium and noticed one of my wcmm struggling to stay up in the water column. I put a cube of freeze dried brine shrimp (all my fish love it even my cories become upside down catfish to get some! And some times they gorge them selves so much that they begin to slightly float do to the food; so I was trying to negate the fishes negative buoyancy) but wouldnt you know it all my fish (including my nocturnal adf are up and eating it) besides my wcmm who is in the corner sitting there, all my fish were okay yesterday; but im not sure if its a trick of the light/eye but it kind of looks like that it has a dark spot (it isnt normally there) help!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pictish_samurai Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 Does the fish look like a pine cone ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The endler guy Posted October 29, 2022 Author Share Posted October 29, 2022 (edited) I think it is a ruptured swim balder (see photo of dark spot) Edited October 29, 2022 by Aiden Carter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The endler guy Posted October 29, 2022 Author Share Posted October 29, 2022 (edited) On 10/29/2022 at 1:21 PM, pictish_samurai said: Does the fish look like a pine cone ? yes Edited October 29, 2022 by Aiden Carter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The endler guy Posted October 29, 2022 Author Share Posted October 29, 2022 i was right there is a large wound on the left side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Possible injury looks like he might have dropsy with the pineconing what I would do if you can is quarantine and treat with kanaplex in food feeding a small amount twice a day for 7 days if not eating dose the tank that will treat any possible internal bacterial infection follow up with a course of metroplex that treats aeromonas a common cause of dropsy and do Epsom salt baths 1 table for 2 gallons for a couple of days that will help reduce the fluid buildup and acts as a muscle relaxant to relieve pressure on the swim bladder @Aiden Carter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The endler guy Posted October 30, 2022 Author Share Posted October 30, 2022 On 10/29/2022 at 8:03 PM, Colu said: Possible injury looks like he might have dropsy with the pineconing what I would do if you can is quarantine and treat with kanaplex in food feeding a small amount twice a day for 7 days if not eating dose the tank that will treat any possible internal bacterial infection follow up with a course of metroplex that treats aeromonas a common cause of dropsy and do Epsom salt baths 1 table for 2 gallons for a couple of days that will help reduce the fluid buildup and acts as a muscle relaxant to relieve pressure on the swim bladder @Aiden Carter im fairly certain it is non viral/ bacterial as I havent done anything differently for months (it was showing no symptoms yesterday/ did not have the wound), personally I think it got hurt, swim bladder ruptured, fluid filled insides; creating pine coning, also due to my parents being strict on spending I cant buy much and am not allowed to set up a quarantine/ hospital tank : ( 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabokovfan87 Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 On 10/29/2022 at 6:19 PM, Aiden Carter said: also due to my parents being strict on spending I cant buy much and am not allowed to set up a quarantine/ hospital tank : ( You can use a bucket with an airstone or a tupperware container if you have one available for use. Getting the fish as close to the water surface without agitating them with too much flow is going to help a little bit to relieve pressure. If you're talking a full on rupture, the fish probably jumped and then did some severe damage on the hardscape or lid of the tank causing the issue. It does happen and I don't know if that is something that can be repaired over time. If the fish is continuing to suffer I would suggest to put it out of it's misery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The endler guy Posted October 30, 2022 Author Share Posted October 30, 2022 On 10/29/2022 at 9:24 PM, nabokovfan87 said: You can use a bucket with an airstone or a tupperware container if you have one available for use. Getting the fish as close to the water surface without agitating them with too much flow is going to help a little bit to relieve pressure. If you're talking a full on rupture, the fish probably jumped and then did some severe damage on the hardscape or lid of the tank causing the issue. It does happen and I don't know if that is something that can be repaired over time. If the fish is continuing to suffer I would suggest to put it out of it's misery. I don’t think I can even do the bucket (I have 3 spare tanks) i think the fish is pretty far gone (it barely moves and has a large wound) how would I painlessly euthanize it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) You can use clove oil @Aiden Carter Edited October 30, 2022 by Colu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The endler guy Posted November 1, 2022 Author Share Posted November 1, 2022 UPDATE!!! I did not end up euthanizing it and im happy I didnt! it is slightly more active (still negatively buoyant) and no longer has dropsy! Hopefully it will make a recovery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The endler guy Posted November 3, 2022 Author Share Posted November 3, 2022 I sadly must make 1 more update, after 5 days my wcmm finally has gone to the final aquarium, I thank it for allowing me to bear witness to it in its (hopefully) fulfilling life 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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