subramn Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Currently my tank is cycling (8th day) and water parameters are Ammonia - 0.25 PPM Nitrite - 0 ppm Nitrate - 0 PPM I have around 25 guppies with bunch of plants, 1 hang on back filter , 1 sponge filter and 1 bio bed filter. feeding twice a day very little food. Added sachem stability and prime for last seven days and today added only prime. do i have to be concerned about this ammonia at 0.25 and if there are ways i can bring down this ammonia to zero ? please advice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candi Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 This video could help: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subramn Posted October 21, 2020 Author Share Posted October 21, 2020 @Candi Thanks. my concern was 0.25 PPM Ammonia is it ok or aquarium needs a water change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yannachka Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 @Cory how does the forum select the thumbnail when there isn’t an image in the post 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 56 minutes ago, subramn said: @Candi Thanks. my concern was 0.25 PPM Ammonia is it ok or aquarium needs a water change Always 0 ammonia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subramn Posted October 22, 2020 Author Share Posted October 22, 2020 tank is cycling through is there anything i can do.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveSamsell Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 25 Guppies in a new tank? I missed the tank size. ? . My very first aquarium had about .75 ppm ammonia throughout cycling. Kept all my fish alive with Seachem Prime & Stability. Definitely not the best way, but it did work. Time itself will be your friend. Eventually seeing nitrite & then nitrate, later on. @Candi, posted a great video. Highly recommended. Some other thoughts: definitely don't over feed the fish & watch water parameters, very closely. If you have cycled media from another aquarium, that would help, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subramn Posted October 22, 2020 Author Share Posted October 22, 2020 @DaveSamsell Thanks for your reply , tank size is 55 gallon. i have applied Seachem Stability daily for last seven days and prime alternate days. i will feed once a day and for how long you applied stability and prime please advice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveSamsell Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, subramn said: @DaveSamsell Thanks for your reply , tank size is 55 gallon. i have applied Seachem Stability daily for last seven days and prime alternate days. i will feed once a day and for how long you applied stability and prime please advice Interesting. My aquarium was a 55 gallon as well. With about 20 very small fish, it took about a month for my complete cycle. If you have a good number of plants, they will help uptake the ammonia, too. Look for plant growth & this will be a good sign. Personally, I was dosing Prime daily. If memory serves me, I believe one dose of Prime treats 1 ppm of ammonia for about 24 hours, or so. I was adding Stability every few days. I highly recommend a master test kit or good test strips, since you'll be testing often. There are many other ways of cycling the tank, but we'll go with what you got, if you prefer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subramn Posted October 22, 2020 Author Share Posted October 22, 2020 @DaveSamsell thanks. i will continue with this approach. so you dosed prime daily and stability alternate days? what about water change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveSamsell Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, subramn said: @DaveSamsell thanks. i will continue with this approach. so you dosed prime daily and stability alternate days? what about water change I didn't change any water until my cycle was complete, since my ammonia \ nitrite wasn't super high & being conditioned with Prime, daily. The Stability is something you may have to observe, I.E. in relationship to ammonia \ nitrite levels. I was dosing Stability every few days, a bit often, perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subramn Posted October 22, 2020 Author Share Posted October 22, 2020 @DaveSamsell thanks. when it warrants a water change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveSamsell Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 1 minute ago, subramn said: @DaveSamsell thanks. when it warrants a water change? If your ammonia and\or nitrites keep rising. A partial water change will help, but will delay your cycle. After you read 0 ammonia & 0 nitrite, you will start reading nitrate. Keep about 10-20 ppm of nitrate for the plants to consume & water change around that premise. Again, these are things that worked for me. There are many other ways, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subramn Posted October 22, 2020 Author Share Posted October 22, 2020 @DaveSamsell Thanks again for your detailed reply. how many plants did you have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Pearl Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 So far I agree with all that's been said. Start tapering off the Prime and Stability while still monitoring parameters. You want the tank to 'take care of itself' when its built up the levels of beneficial bacteria. The chemicals are a 'temporary solution'. When your tank is 'dialed in' you won't need the additives. My advice is to taaaake iiiiiit sloooooowww. A new tank is exciting! But you don't want all of your hard work to end up in failure. Watch videos, have fun, repeat! Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subramn Posted October 22, 2020 Author Share Posted October 22, 2020 @Dandy Pearl thanks for your advice. this forum is really good in encouraging new comers like me and guiding. i will keep both points and track the outcome. i am in week 2 of the new setup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveSamsell Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, subramn said: @DaveSamsell Thanks again for your detailed reply. how many plants did you have I had a moderate to heavy stocking of plants. From fast growing stem plants to Anubias, Java Ferns, Mario Moss, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Pearl Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 (edited) I wouldn't add any fish, or perform a water change until at least 6wks since start up. This, in my opinion, is the minimum time for a tank to just get settled in. Longer is better. Good Luck! Edited October 22, 2020 by Dandy Pearl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subramn Posted October 22, 2020 Author Share Posted October 22, 2020 @Dandy Pearl @DaveSamsell thanks again for detailed reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveSamsell Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 👍 😊 You are very welcome. It's a great hobby. The Forum is always here if you need help. All the best... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Something to keep in mind as you are dosing Prime. Some test kits will not have accurate results for the nitrogens and ammonia. I use API liquid, and have have seen nitrite/nitrate tests show much lower results for up to 48hrs (0ppm for the first 24). Not sure if others have seen this?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subramn Posted October 24, 2020 Author Share Posted October 24, 2020 Hi @Buzz @DaveSamsell @Dandy Pearl @Sleepy @Candi Currently my tank is cycling at (11th day) and water parameters staying the same Ammonia - 0.25 PPM Nitrite - 0 ppm Nitrate - 0 PPM I have around 25 guppies with lot of plants, 1 hang on back filter optimized based on cory's video , 1 sponge filter and 2 bio bed filters. feeding twice a day very little food. i am not sure why there is no change in parameters for last 4 days. any suggestions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Pearl Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 (edited) If you've gotten down to no prime and no stabil, and things are staying stable, maybe your in a good place. Is you're tank heavily planted? If so, that may be the reason you are not seeing any Nitrates. Your plants are sucking them up as soon as they become available. Your Ammonia seems to still be high. Keep a watch on it. This is a marathon, not a sprint. You'll get there. Edited October 24, 2020 by Dandy Pearl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subramn Posted October 24, 2020 Author Share Posted October 24, 2020 @Dandy Pearl its heavily planted. few pothos (5) , java ferns (2), java moss(1), couple of amazon swords, few valliseneria plants stopped stability after seven days alternate days applying prime. 25 guppies (mix of small and medium size) and 4 plecos (small) 1 hang on back filter (optimized to max following cory's video) , 1 sponge filter, 2 bio bed filter on the sides. i will keep an eye on ammonia. i am going to hold on to water change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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