prashant Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 I have an established planted 20Gal tank with Java fern, Java moss, Anubia and , Amazon sword. I have 8 neon tetras and some Nerite snails and shrimps living in this tank. I have used CaribSea Eco Complete as Substrate and i supplement this with few drops of Flourish Seachem when i do the weekly water change. Few weeks back i bought Pogostemon Octopus (this should survive with the existing Lighting i have) and planted them in the tank. Within few days it starting shedding the leaves and within 10-14 days the plant started disintegrating. I had planted 6 of these and none of them survived. I have a Finnex Stingray 2 Aquarium LED Light, Blue Fish Moonlights, 24", Silver for lighting. FLuval E series Heater(E100). Any pointers on why the plants didnt survive? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick_G Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) My Pogostemon Octopus just started growing and hasn’t stopped. I’m wondering it yours was sold to you in emersed (air grown) form. If that’s the case it might melt back at first but then grow back in it’s submerged form. I’ve bought quite a few plants that went through this process and unfortunately not all of them make it, but most do. Edited July 9, 2021 by Patrick_G 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARMYVET Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 I have 4 of them....2 I got from the coop and 2 locally. The ones locally came first and did crappy at first but they came back so Im guessing the emerseed form to submersed form melt happened. The ones from @Cory and the Co-OP looked magnificent from day 1 and never melted at all. They are growing like weeds and need to learn how to properly prune them. The co-op plants are very nice!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick_G Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 On 7/9/2021 at 3:23 PM, ARMYVET said: I have 4 of them....2 I got from the coop and 2 locally. The ones locally came first and did crappy at first but they came back so Im guessing the emerseed form to submersed form melt happened. The ones from @Cory and the Co-OP looked magnificent from day 1 and never melted at all. They are growing like weeds and need to learn how to properly prune them. The co-op plants are very nice!! Mine were also from the coop and didn’t melt. There were two 18” stems in one pot. I really got my money’s worth! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARMYVET Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) I have both of mine in my betta quarantine tank. Ill take a pic of them when I get home and I swear you wont believe it! Edited July 9, 2021 by ARMYVET 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaac M Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 Your bioload is relatively low and pogostemon stellata octopus likes a lot of nutrients as it is a fast grower. Seachem Flourish provides micronutrients but not macronutrients (Nitrogen, Potassium and Phosphorous). Do you know what your nitrate level is? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prashant Posted July 10, 2021 Author Share Posted July 10, 2021 On 7/9/2021 at 5:30 PM, Isaac M said: Your bioload is relatively low and pogostemon stellata octopus likes a lot of nutrients as it is a fast grower. Seachem Flourish provides micronutrients but not macronutrients (Nitrogen, Potassium and Phosphorous). Do you know what your nitrate level is? I havent checked the Nitrate level in a while.Let me check the same and maybe provide the macronutrients as needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prashant Posted July 10, 2021 Author Share Posted July 10, 2021 On 7/9/2021 at 3:23 PM, ARMYVET said: I have 4 of them....2 I got from the coop and 2 locally. The ones locally came first and did crappy at first but they came back so Im guessing the emerseed form to submersed form melt happened. The ones from @Cory and the Co-OP looked magnificent from day 1 and never melted at all. They are growing like weeds and need to learn how to properly prune them. The co-op plants are very nice!! Mine is from the coop . I guess i will add some ore nutrients to the setup and give it couple of weeks more. Can you please share what nutrients you have added to your setup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prashant Posted July 10, 2021 Author Share Posted July 10, 2021 On 7/9/2021 at 1:35 PM, Patrick_G said: My Pogostemon Octopus just started growing and hasn’t stopped. I’m wondering it yours was sold to you in emersed (air grown) form. If that’s the case it might melt back at first but then grow back in it’s submerged form. I’ve bought quite a few plants that went through this process and unfortunately not all of them make it, but most do. Will keep my fingers crossed . I see some recommendations to added nutrients if needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARMYVET Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 I only use easy green with them for now. of the 4 I have…2 have been planted in my outdoor pond and the other 2 …the ones from the coop are in my qt tank right now with my betta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARMYVET Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 (edited) Here are the coop ones in the qt tank… and yes a coop sponge filter photo bombing in the pic as well…😂 Edited July 10, 2021 by ARMYVET Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaac M Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 @prashant here is a link to an article covering nutrient deficiencies in plants: https://www.aquariumcoop.com/blogs/aquarium/plant-nutrient-deficiencies Maybe you can look through it and figure which deficiency may have occurred by comparing your observations with the pictures/ descriptions in the article. I hope that helps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARMYVET Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 All I have used for nutrients with the coop plants is easy green. The ones in the ponds that were planted a week ago got root tabs added to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HH Morant Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 This co-op PSO is planted in a "pot" made out of the bottom part of a 16 oz coke bottle. There is about 1 and 1/2 inches of potting soil and 2 or 3 root tabs in the bottom, covered by gravel. The original leaves gradually fell away and were replaced be longer, thinner ones. Then it grew. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prashant Posted July 10, 2021 Author Share Posted July 10, 2021 On 7/9/2021 at 6:01 PM, ARMYVET said: Here are the coop ones in the qt tank… and yes a coop sponge filter photo bombing in the pic as well…😂 Looks healthy. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prashant Posted July 10, 2021 Author Share Posted July 10, 2021 On 7/9/2021 at 6:05 PM, ARMYVET said: All I have used for nutrients with the coop plants is easy green. The ones in the ponds that were planted a week ago got root tabs added to them. Thanks will try this out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prashant Posted July 10, 2021 Author Share Posted July 10, 2021 On 7/9/2021 at 6:02 PM, Isaac M said: @prashant here is a link to an article covering nutrient deficiencies in plants: https://www.aquariumcoop.com/blogs/aquarium/plant-nutrient-deficiencies Maybe you can look through it and figure which deficiency may have occurred by comparing your observations with the pictures/ descriptions in the article. I hope that helps! Thanks for the link. Much appreciated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARMYVET Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 On 7/9/2021 at 10:27 PM, HH Morant said: This co-op PSO is planted in a "pot" made out of the bottom part of a 16 oz coke bottle. There is about 1 and 1/2 inches of potting soil and 2 or 3 root tabs in the bottom, covered by gravel. The original leaves gradually fell away and were replaced be longer, thinner ones. Then it grew. WOW THATS IMPRESSIVE!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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