Beardedbillygoat1975 Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 (edited) I ordered some black lame and silver lame ricefish eggs and the recommended procedure from the breeder was aged aquarium water, methylene blue and no recommendations for air. Wondered if the hive minds has any thoughts? Edited June 14, 2021 by Beardedbillygoat1975 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 (edited) On 6/14/2021 at 4:14 PM, Beardedbillygoat1975 said: I ordered some black lame and silver lame ricefish eggs and the recommended procedure from the breeder was aged aquarium water, methylene blue and no recommendations for air. Wondered if the hive minds has any thoughts? Oh wow! I've no idea. For our killifish, the first hurdle is fighting off fungus. Methylene Blue can certainly help with that. We use Rooibos Tea bags -- steep one bag in 1 gal. tank water for 24 hrs. Also we've used catapa leaves and alder cones for tannins. A small batch of java fern can provide micro life. I think the question is whether you want to hatch them sterile -- water + methylene blue . . . or seasoned -- tannins + java moss. Either way, I'd suggest some air. That fights off fungus. What we do is just buy a "bacto-surge" sponge filter designed for small aquariums - 5.5, or 10 gal max - and run an air line to it. You can use an airstone too. The advantage of using a sponge (which we season in a tank for a month in advance) is that you do not need to stress over ammonia spikes. Now . . . if the eggs are firm enough, you can _try_ (at your own risk) putting in a single neocaridina into the seasoned container setup. Any infertile eggs will be eaten but the fertilized ones will survive. That is how I do it for our Killis. People scoff. But I have hundreds of Killis 😜 Edited June 14, 2021 by Fish Folk 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardedbillygoat1975 Posted June 14, 2021 Author Share Posted June 14, 2021 @Fish Folkthanks so much I can see the idea of a shrimp naturally helping out. I have some guppy grass could I use that in lieu of the Java fern? I do have some Java moss as well. Do you let them hatch then add the food source? is ich-x the same as methylene blue? I have hydrogen peroxide as well. Wow I’m nervous suddenly! Ha good feeling to ha e as a fish keeper! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 (edited) Well -- just so I'm being clear, I've _never_ done any Medakas. My feedback is just for what I've done with Emerald Killifish. I just pick eggs out of a mop, and plop them into clear jugs set up as described above: tank water + room temperature + tannins + java moss + neocaridina + micro sponge filter. Edited June 14, 2021 by Fish Folk 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardedbillygoat1975 Posted June 14, 2021 Author Share Posted June 14, 2021 I forgot about watching these when I got my 5 gallon ice fish in the winter. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardedbillygoat1975 Posted June 19, 2021 Author Share Posted June 19, 2021 Here’s the setup I’ve done - Tupperware, drilled a hole, airline through, aged tank water, methylene blue 3-4 drops, and airstone. All the eggs I received are eyed up. Very excited! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardedbillygoat1975 Posted June 20, 2021 Author Share Posted June 20, 2021 Day 2 and post water 50% water change with aged water with methylene blue one drop. No fuzzy or white ones so far! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoelacanthChild Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 On 6/14/2021 at 2:29 PM, Beardedbillygoat1975 said: @Fish Folkthanks so much I can see the idea of a shrimp naturally helping out. I have some guppy grass could I use that in lieu of the Java fern? I do have some Java moss as well. Do you let them hatch then add the food source? is ich-x the same as methylene blue? I have hydrogen peroxide as well. Wow I’m nervous suddenly! Ha good feeling to ha e as a fish keeper! I think ich-x has malachite green (another dye), not methylene blue. But both dye's are used to combat ich. It's interesting that these two dyes work against fungus and ich. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardedbillygoat1975 Posted June 22, 2021 Author Share Posted June 22, 2021 @CoelacanthChildI ended up purchasing some methylene blue but thank you so much for the info. I only see a few eggs left. I didn’t end up with fuzzed up eggs just they disappeared. My concern is that the air is too strong. I’ll change the amount of air I try this next time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardedbillygoat1975 Posted June 23, 2021 Author Share Posted June 23, 2021 Well I’ve hatched some ricefish! So excited! Guess I spoke too soon! So what should be next? How do I transition them from the methylene blue water? Specimen container next size or keep them in the Tupperware for awhile? I dipped a net in my green water tank and then rang it out in the Tupperware and put in a piece of moss. I’ll water change later today - continue aged tank water question is +- methylene blue. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BriannesFishFam Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 I personally just let them hatch with moss in my water 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardedbillygoat1975 Posted June 23, 2021 Author Share Posted June 23, 2021 @BriannesFishFam after my disappointment with my tub overheating and killing one of my 5 platinums I took no risks. If I had a steady stream of eggs from the adult platinums I’d be hatching them with aged water, Rubios tea and some moss but I was scared. I work in medicine and sterile technique is second nature so that’s the direction I went. I probably built it all Up in my head and let my anxiety drive the process. I may be more chill about it with subsequent spawns. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BriannesFishFam Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 On 6/23/2021 at 6:58 PM, Beardedbillygoat1975 said: @BriannesFishFam after my disappointment with my tub overheating and killing one of my 5 platinums I took no risks. If I had a steady stream of eggs from the adult platinums I’d be hatching them with aged water, Rubios tea and some moss but I was scared. I work in medicine and sterile technique is second nature so that’s the direction I went. I probably built it all Up in my head and let my anxiety drive the process. I may be more chill about it with subsequent spawns. Nice! I have been looking for some rarer type rice fish 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardedbillygoat1975 Posted June 23, 2021 Author Share Posted June 23, 2021 I have been prowling on Aquabid for awhile. I’ve gotten ricefish from the same guy in Hawaii multiple times. Goes by Mobetta on Aquabid. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardedbillygoat1975 Posted June 25, 2021 Author Share Posted June 25, 2021 Things are going well I think - never done this before so somewhat unsure of the next steps. I have a 3 g tank I’m setting up and only filling half way with plan to put a seasoned sponge in there eventually just have air on now. I’ve been feeding a baby micro food and green water - gave them 1 ml then watched them gobble up the infusoria and gave them 1 ml more. Their little bellies were full so cute. I’ll grab picks tomorrow. I changed out 40%~ of the water. I have turned down the air a bit so they aren’t being blow around. I’ve counted 8 fish out of the 11 eggs. I set up a sterilite shoebox with a light and airstone for baby brine. Followed the directions on the package so we’ll see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardedbillygoat1975 Posted June 26, 2021 Author Share Posted June 26, 2021 I’m super happy how things are going. I’d fed them micro foods and green water and started hatching BBS. Well with the heat in Oregon they quickly hatched. I was worried they were too big for the babies but they managed just fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardedbillygoat1975 Posted June 30, 2021 Author Share Posted June 30, 2021 Managed to pull my platinum female who was full of eggs this AM. Put her in a breeder box with some guppy grass, roibos tea bag, alder cone and a blue dream shrimp. Going to try to raise these eggs without methylene blue ala @Fish Folk. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardedbillygoat1975 Posted July 1, 2021 Author Share Posted July 1, 2021 I lost my female platinum Medaka- she did not like being handled. I think this and the stress of the recent heat were just too Much. I’m so bloody sad! My silver and black lame are doing great. Even now the color at times is really amazing. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardedbillygoat1975 Posted July 25, 2021 Author Share Posted July 25, 2021 Here’s some updated pics of the fry. They now look like proper little ricefish. I’m going to start working on their long term home soon they’ll be in for the next year until I put them out next spring. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BriannesFishFam Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 On 7/25/2021 at 2:43 AM, Beardedbillygoat1975 said: Here’s some updated pics of the fry. They now look like proper little ricefish. I’m going to start working on their long term home soon they’ll be in for the next year until I put them out next spring. What did you feed them to grow them so fast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardedbillygoat1975 Posted July 25, 2021 Author Share Posted July 25, 2021 Fry food, spirulina algae powder, Baby Brine shrimp, daphnia and infusoria, green water first few days. Moving them this week to crushed Sera O-Nip tabs and extreme krill flake. Hot temps have helped. 1-2 50% water changes with water from my best water system per day. Moved them from a Tupperware to a sterilite shoebox last week. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suz Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Wow! Your success is thrilling. Well done! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT_ Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Sorry to necro- a thread but I'm curious how these guys are doing and what they look like now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardedbillygoat1975 Posted February 22, 2022 Author Share Posted February 22, 2022 I had a group of 9 that made it to juveniles. Those did well until the recent plague in this tank- appears to have been Epistylis. Anyway there’s 3 fish that survived. I will put these 3 with 5 mixed lame Medaka (champagne, white Buchi, and Sanshoku) and one Miyuki white I have leftover from last years summer tubing. I’m throwing all of them in a 17 g muck bucket tub until Spring. Then I’ll put them in different groups to breed out in my 3 ponds - 27 g, 50 g, and the 17 g. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT_ Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 thats rough 😞 hopefully you still have at least one M and F! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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