DebSills Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 (edited) Not exactly sure what this is, but it is only affecting one fish - should I move to a hospital tank (assuming I can grab him) or should I treat the whole tank? If I treat, what should I use? I have ParaCleanse and Maracyn Any help is greatly appreciated!! (**current tank setup is 29 Gallon, 18 Embers, 18 CPDs and 3 Otos) Edited July 20, 2021 by DebSills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 Looks like columnaris i would treat all your fish as soon as possible as it's high contagious some of your could all ready have it and are not showing symptoms yet recommend treatment is seachems kanaplex and API furan2 together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DebSills Posted July 20, 2021 Author Share Posted July 20, 2021 On 7/20/2021 at 7:35 PM, Colu said: API furan2 Is this the same (or close) to Maracyn? It does state that it is for the treatment of columnaris on the box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 (edited) No columnaris is a gram negative bacterial infection so you need to with kanaplex or furan2 as they both treat gram negative bacterial infection maracyn treats gram positive bacterial infection I would recommend treating with kanaplex and API furan2 together is the most affective treatment for columnaris Edited July 20, 2021 by Colu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DebSills Posted July 21, 2021 Author Share Posted July 21, 2021 is there anything other than Furan2 that I can use? It is out of stock everywhere 😞 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quikv6 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Yes.....API Triple Sulfa, or Seachem's Sulfaplex......but they will also be out of stock, if I had to venture a guess. There is also a salt+methylene blue treatment, if I remember correctly. I believe Michael's Fish Room did a recent video on that for treating Columnaris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Seachems Kanaplex maracyn2 API fin and body cure can be used to treat columnaris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DebSills Posted July 21, 2021 Author Share Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) I have Maracyn2 on overnight delivery from Live Aquaria and Kanaplex from Amazon due on Thursday - is there anything I can do until then? I don't want all of my fish to die 😞 Is it worth putting Maracyn or ParaCleanse in there - or salt? Edited July 21, 2021 by DebSills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 I wouldn't treat with paracleanse or maracyn I would add some aquarium salt 1 table spoon for 2 gallons salt at that level will harm your plants or you could wait till tomorrow and start treatment with the maracyn2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DebSills Posted July 21, 2021 Author Share Posted July 21, 2021 good news...my brother in law has Maracyn 2, Kanaplex and Furan 2!! My hubs is on his way to get it from him... What is this treatment going to do to my filter media? should I take some out (I have 2 full trays in my canister) and "save" it and then put it back in there after the treatment? Or just leave it and hope it doesn't kill all of my BB? at least my tank is relatively clean...was kind of getting overrun with some hair algae, but much better now...I was going to get some amano, but now may have to replace all of my stock 😢 keeping my fingers crossed though that everyone pulls through Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) I would take some filter media out when treating with furan2 he some information on treating with kanaplex and API furan2 together Edited July 21, 2021 by Colu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guppysnail Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) On 7/20/2021 at 7:52 PM, Colu said: No columnaris is a gram negative bacterial infection so you need to with kanaplex or furan2 as they both treat gram negative bacterial infection maracyn treats gram positive bacterial infection I would recommend treating with kanaplex and API furan2 together is the most affective treatment for columnaris @colu.? I thought maracyn 2 could treat gram negative fish room is asleep and dark so I cant check. It’s available on amazon Edited July 21, 2021 by Guppysnail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guppysnail Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Is this what you have? It’s maracyn 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guppysnail Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Sorry i missed you found it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DebSills Posted July 21, 2021 Author Share Posted July 21, 2021 I tried to catch them and move them to the 10g tank, but I can't...they're too fast and frankly its stressing me out...if I don't have enough furan for all 5 days, should I just use the Maracyn 2? I have enough of that for the full 5 days...I only have enough for 1 full treatment of the fluran right now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guppysnail Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 On 7/20/2021 at 10:23 PM, DebSills said: I tried to catch them and move them to the 10g tank, but I can't...they're too fast and frankly its stressing me out...if I don't have enough furan for all 5 days, should I just use the Maracyn 2? I have enough of that for the full 5 days...I only have enough for 1 full treatment of the fluran right now... Maracyn 2 does treat it. I have no experience with culmanaris but i would do the maracyn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 On 7/21/2021 at 2:57 AM, Guppysnail said: I thought maracyn 2 could treat gram negative fish room is asleep and dark so I cant check. It’s available on amazon Maracyn 2 does treat columnaris but the most effective treatment is kanaplex and API furan2 together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 On 7/21/2021 at 3:23 AM, DebSills said: I tried to catch them and move them to the 10g tank, but I can't...they're too fast and frankly its stressing me out...if I don't have enough furan for all 5 days, should I just use the Maracyn 2? I have enough of that for the full 5 days...I only have enough for 1 full treatment of the fluran right now... Start treating with maracyn2 and and then do a course of kanaplex when that arrives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DebSills Posted July 21, 2021 Author Share Posted July 21, 2021 My brother in law had Kanaplex as well, he just didn't have enough furan - can I do the Maracyn 2 with the kanaplex together, basically swap out the furan for the maracyn and do that treatment? or should I just do the maracyn and then treat kanaplex after? thanks for all of your help!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) No you can't use them together if you have kanaplex treat with that it a more broad spectrum antibiotic treatment Edited July 21, 2021 by Colu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DebSills Posted July 21, 2021 Author Share Posted July 21, 2021 On 7/21/2021 at 8:38 AM, Colu said: No you can't use them together if you have kanaplex treat with that it a more broad spectrum antibiotic treatment ok, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DebSills Posted July 23, 2021 Author Share Posted July 23, 2021 (edited) Update: So far no fish losses, not sure if it is spreading, but I don't think so - no real changes in the affected fish that I noticed on Tuesday, maybe a little, but might be wishful thinking. Did the second dose of Kanaplex today, so hoping that it starts to get better in the next day or two, or at least keep the fish going. Opinions welcome - given the choice, should I do a course of Maracyn 2 after the first round of Kanaplex, or do a second round of Kanaplex - and should I do a water change a day or two after the third dose of Kanaplex? Never really tried to treat with meds like this before, so thanks for all of the help!!! One more thing...my nitrates are a little low - only at about ~7ish...I usually dose Easy Green 1x week, but haven't yet this week...can I dose while medicating? Edited July 23, 2021 by DebSills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 What I would do is not add the easy green while using meds you can do two rounds of kanaplex back to back for severe infection after a second round treatment with kanaplex a would do a course of maracyn2 if kanaplex hasn't done the job 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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