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The top one appears to be a type of minnow, the bottom appears to be a goby fry of some sort? Difficult to tell when they’re that small. Honestly if you don’t have a collection permit and you don’t know what species you’re looking at, you really should not be taking native fish from their habitat. Collection of any kind without a permit usually illegal and you could unknowingly do harm to a threatened population. 

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2 hours ago, Nirvanaquatics said:

The top one appears to be a type of minnow, the bottom appears to be a goby fry of some sort? Difficult to tell when they’re that small. Honestly if you don’t have a collection permit and you don’t know what species you’re looking at, you really should not be taking native fish from their habitat. Collection of any kind without a permit usually illegal and you could unknowingly do harm to a threatened population. 

Ok I wasn’t planning on keeping them. I just wanted to know what they are thanks.

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Really good advice from @Nirvanaquatics on investigating collection permits.  If you watch some of the "guys with nets in Florida canals" videos on Youtube,  you'll see that they pick up a bunch of non native species- many of which likely originated from the aquarium hobby.  And then there's the pythons and zebra mussels.  Many state's DNR (Department of Natural Resources) have adopted a zero tolerance / hefty fine strategy on any activities that move species out of their natural range and/or into non native habitats, so beware and educate yourself as best you can.

 I'd extend @Nirvanaquatics guidance to researching eBay/Etsy etc. listings as well.  I've caught a bunch of recent listings (e.g. Sphixi Snails) where sellers have listed plants and animals that have active DNR and Department of Agriculture restrictions on their sale and/or transport across state lines.  Ignorance of retrictions isn't a defense in avoiding fines.

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3 minutes ago, NanoNano said:

Really good advice from @Nirvanaquatics on investigating collection permits.  If you watch some of the "guys with nets in Florida canals" videos on Youtube,  you'll see that they pick up a bunch of non native species- many of which likely originated from the aquarium hobby.  And then there's the pythons and zebra mussels.  Many state's DNR (Department of Natural Resources) have adopted a zero tolerance / hefty fine strategy on any activities that move species out of their natural range and/or into non native habitats, so beware and educate yourself as best you can.

 I'd extend @Nirvanaquatics guidance to researching eBay/Etsy etc. listings as well.  I've caught a bunch of recent listings (e.g. Sphixi Snails) where sellers have listed plants and animals that have active DNR and Department of Agriculture restrictions on their sale and/or transport across state lines.  Ignorance of retrictions isn't a defense in avoiding fines.

I never knew that was against the law but thanks do you know where you can get collection permits at.

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I would research your state's DNR online site(s) and wouldn't be hesitant to call/email them for guidance.  

My general gut tells me that there's some animosity towards exotic fish/reptile hobbyists in many DNRs and courts due to irresponsible actions in the past (again...pythons and zebra mussels),  so showing that you're a current hobbiest that's trying to be responsible and follow the DNR rules to NOT make further mistakes should be met with support.

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15 minutes ago, Taco Playz said:

Would I need a permit for Mosquito fish. They are super common in my pond. There’s probably millions of them.

 

I’ve seen people keep mosquito fish in aquariums before. I don’t want to keep them at all but I wondered because people at my pond nearby have taken them home before.

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