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This arrived earlier than expected.... so much for the 11th at the earliest 🙂. My first bigger tank @ 270 gallons. Now to build the block and 3/4" plywood stand and move it in from under the porch asap.
One of the 5 Pao abei with a pretty good food belly tonight
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On 8/6/2023 at 5:38 PM, tolstoy21 said:
That was the exact number I was thinking!
Yeah I had some ideas for this. Perhaps cardinal tetras, or, I would really like to get, and attempt to breed, some Red Cherry Tetras (Hyphessobrycon sp. MZUEL 17771). However, I will need to save up my nickels for a dozen or so of those.
I'm trying to keep the number of different species minimal in this setup.
Those Red Cherry Tetras look cool. I saw them up in boulder colorado..... Just a few nickles.
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On 8/3/2023 at 11:25 PM, nabokovfan87 said:
Is the eye thing a bacterial infection or just a camera trickery?
@nabokovfan87 I would guess more camera trickery more than eye issue. Similar to mekongs /palustris. These are F1palustris with a similar reflection
Both new groups will go through the med trio and a few more rounds of deworming.
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I did a thing again lol .....
Started a colony of Pao abei
We are day one pretty recently arrived to the US. We have some deworming etc to run through still.
And a group of Pao leiurus
He was pretty sure that blood worm cube had a dangerous side.
Got a clip of the Spotted congo fry. They are still growing out nicely
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I suggest looking at whiteworms for pea puffers. I do both grindal and white worms soil-less on scrubber pads they produce a ton of worms no smell and no bug issues. Whiteworms are regularly fed to smaller puffers up here.
Thinner species of earthworms would also be a hit im sure.
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@CJs Aquatics thats even more awesome than i pictured. Great stuff thanks for sharing
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On 7/17/2023 at 2:52 PM, Preston John said:
@mountaintoppufferkeeper get job. I’ve only ever lost one between this point and 55 days old. It does get a little more tricky when you’re raising 600 at a time, but not too hard.
@Preston John much thanks. Im getting there slowly on the food size timeline for my setup here. I figured once to eating BBS reliably it would be the same process as the Pao palustris from then on.
Ill have improve my paramecium, rotifer, and copepod culture skills a bit more for 600 at a time. They have been very rewarding to learn from to this point of growth.
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@nabokovfan87 Variety, the spice of fry life maybe. Im not too sure on nutrition values either but I bet it would be some benefit. The shrimplet sizes matching the puffer could be a challenge.
@Chick-In-Of-TheSeaThanks kindly. The photos and video are primarily why I replaced my older phone with a Samsung S23 Ultra . My intention was to get better video and photos of fry (if I was fortunate enough to have more fry); it gets much more use as a camera and "handtop computer" than it does making or recieving calls.
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@nabokovfan87I have had shrimp in the past. I never considered shrimplets as an option for fry of appropriate size until you mentioned it. I think that could work 🤔
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Today was day 1 if brine shrimp. The 4 remaining from 5 should raise up using the usual puffer foods now.
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Looks awesome from here
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On 7/14/2023 at 2:57 AM, Chick-In-Of-TheSea said:
@mountaintoppufferkeeper you need to stop on by
and add a post 🙏
Definately. Posted 🙂
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Spotted congo fry (finally) feeding on adult copepods. Back puffer fry grabs one in this.
They are pretty tiny fry still; for comparison, the black dots moving on the bottom are seed shrimp
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Today there is a noticable size increase in 3 of the 5 fry this run. I took a decent clip of copepods being on the day 11 menu. Top back spotted congo must have zeroed in on a tasty one there.
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Congrats thats great. They are a pretty awesome species to breed. I guess they are conditioned 🙂
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@Colu thats a tough one @troublelunsford I havent ever had that particular issue. Are the marks growing?
I did have a puffer who punctured themselves on some driftwood and eventually healed. That was a deeper wound annd not quite that look.
Are the marks growing? I cant imagine a fahaka puffer letting itself get gnawed on like that but anything is possible.
Ive seen a more shallow white mark like that on a hairy puffer before who would lay against a heater regularly. I have no idea if heaters burn but it seemed like a burn to me. That puffer is fine 6 years later.
Could that have been caused by pickle lying against a heater or running into decor and getting a scrape ?
In general I use meds as a last option change water observe behavior while the puffer is eating and when they are hanging out throughout the day after an injury.
I just stick with the COOP med trio when I need a med. I have not tried the melafix but if i were treating a wound like that id also try antibacterial med.
Anyone else have experience with similar looking disease/injury?
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On 7/9/2023 at 4:23 PM, Cinnebuns said:
I've gotten to a good place financially. I've also been struggling lately in many ways. Both of these makes me want to put in an order for something new. Give me something to uplift me. I need it to be a wise decision on what though. I have some chronic health issues that sometimes get in the way of caring for my animals. I have been learning a lot about my health situation to make it better, but I cannot overload myself too much or I won't be able to keep up. I have been able to keep up thus far, but I also don't want to go too close to the line of not being able to.
Idea 1, cherry barbs in the 29:
The 29 is currently understocked. I also tend to not notice the rainbowfish in the tank as much against the green plants. Some red might pop nice. The tank already has: 2 thick lipped gourami, 2 honey gourami, 4 pseudomugil gerturdea, 4 pseudomugil luminatus, 3 otos, about 9 panda cories. Here's a short video of the tank:
Idea 2, more rainbowfish in the 29:
It might be more logical to add more rainbowfish rather than a new type of fish. My journey with these bows has been interesting. Long story short, the ones I have now I rescued from a lady. When I first got them, I had a yoyo loach in the tank that was mean. The entire tank kinda turned inactive for several months after. For awhile, I thought they were just an inactive boring fish. Lately I've been noticing more activity than before. They still do not pop with color as much as cherry barbs would, but I do have them already. IF I added more bows, I'm not even entirely sure what species. Of the 2 I currently have, I like luminatus more. I actually enjoyed furcata more when I had them than these 2 species. I've also always wanted threadfins. Threadfins come with the added bonus of not being a pseudomugil so no hybrid chances with them. Same tank so above video applies.
Idea 3: New Betta:
Betta-only are low stress because low bioload. I am still relatively new to bettas but I do currently have 2. Rah is my female in my 20 on fry control duty with the guppies. Storm is my male mustard gas crowntail in a 6 gallon with ramshorn snails. I have 2 options if I wanted to add another betta.
Storm has shown me he is very peaceful and I would be willing to try him in my 15 gallon tank with green neon tetras and growout for my panda cory juveniles. Then I could put the new one in his tank. One issue here is storm first needs to be feeling better. He has been struggling. That said, he also has been doing much better lately and is looking up.
A 2nd option is its own 10 gallon. I do have empty 10 or 5.5 gallon tanks right now. I could put a new betta in one of those along with ramshorn or nerite snail friends.
Idea 4, rabbit snails:
I'm not even going to go into all the factors on this one. There's just too many. I kinda wanna breed rabbit snails but I can't right now. My 29 is the only one that has space for them but it isn't safe for inverts right now. I dosed the tank 2x with no planaria and fenbendazole about 6 months ago and every snail I have put in there since has died. Rip the dream. Trying to run carbon but idk.
I generally go with option 1 since thats what often came to me first. They all sound pretty great though
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On 7/8/2023 at 8:45 PM, Dork Fish said:
@mountaintoppufferkeeper Those puffers look really cool! I will have to look into their care 🙂
@Beardedbillygoat1975 A puffer! 🙂Also that is a very nice pleco. Is that an aquatic frog?!?!
@Dork Fish i believe the green spotted is brackish i meant to say the spotted congo which is freshwater. This is my go to website for learning about them. https://www.spottedcongopuffer.com/
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They all have their quirks but I think the pea puffers were probably the puffer that Ive kept which ate most everything I fed them and could be housed in a smaller tank.
I dont run puffers with other fish normally but I would guess the spotted congo would be worth a look. They can generally be housed with other fish. My group of 4 puffers had a few baby limia vitatta that hitched a eide on snails with them before i netted them back out.
They are all fun for me though
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On 7/8/2023 at 10:44 AM, Dork Fish said:
My 75g tank is not set up yet, but my top 5 fish would be:
1) Puffers in general LOL I am not sure if I will ever own one but they are so cool to watch 🙂 If I did get one it night be pea puffers (or another species that doesn't need shells) @mountaintoppufferkeeper Let me know if pea puffers are easy-ish to keep lol
2) Either a L177 Gold Nugget Pleco or L260 Queen Arabesque Pleco (stunning patterns):
3) Peacock Eel (I mean it is an eel...):
4) Hillstream Loaches (look kinda like baby stingrays 🙂):
5) Ropefish (I love snakes so...)
6) Honorable mentions (technically not fish but that's okay LOL):
-Shrimp and Crayfish (love the variation of color and movement that they add to a tank)Yeah im a bit of a shelled food and other miscellaneous foods rancher for the puffers....thats a whole different side of the hobby.
I havent kept pea puffers in a while and would defer to the forum experts on them ....but i really liked my group of them they mostly ate bloodworms, some occasional pond snails they found in plants, frozen mysis shrimp, krill both freeze dried and frozen, maybe repashy (im not positive), vibra bites, and also never notices a scud in their tank back then so im sure those were a pea pleaser as well
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I basically have 5 top choices probably a few more but
1. Hairy Puffer Pao baileyi
In a colony they are fairly active for me. All have a different personality and food preferences. This was the first puffer species I decided to try as a colony... and ignore the internet rules against doing it. Since 2018 they have been fairly interactive with eachother and with me. When i move the third that one will become "a bump on a log"
2. Mekong River Puffer Pao cf palustris
My first puffer spawned and raised. They hold a special place in the list these two were in the amazonas article. Adult wc Male behind adlut female in front .
One of the great things about this species is their spawning coloration. Male left female right. These are the same species as the parents above.
Fry hatching
Baby palustris moving to a growout
3. Spotted Congo Puffer Tetraodon schoutedeni
this group is from two sources and is my first partial success with egg scattering puffers. Small and relatively peaceful are tough to beat
Still working on the process for raising them to the size for live baby brine . This is a fry from the above group which is currently growing with 5 siblings in a german breeding ring.
4. Regani Dwarf Pike Crenicichla regani "Rio tapajos"
Before puffers there were pike. My dad and I had, among other cool stuff, a belly crawler pike growing up. The regani make my list because they were the first challenging species to be bred up here in my fishroom. 5.5 " male behind and 4.5" female displaying the striped patterning. The male has excellent coloration when breeding. The parents would adjust patterns to comminucate to eachother and the fry in this photo using that color change. Each would rotate perimeter guard and fry overwatch ...im assuming to stay alert. They would pop their jaws and head shake at me if i was too close to the fry..
70 ish days later
5. Sterbai Corydoras
Because they look nice and are so tough up here im not even convinced they need water :).
They breed for me regularly. I am running 20 sterbai fry in the bottom 40 gallon breeder of the floating fry ring system.
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That pond snail really puts them into perspective size wise
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Those are nice loaches there.
This is the about 6 inch deep mat that the coop pennywort llikes to grows into in my tanks. This one is within my limia vitatta / snail 40 breeder"ranch". Its pretty much like that every 2 weeks. Great plant.
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On 7/7/2023 at 7:46 AM, Chick-In-Of-TheSea said:
Made some Repashy. A little batch for the betta - he loves it! And a larger batch w/ calcium for the snails and shrimp. The shrimp will also receive my “Repashy mixers” so, zero waste! (I’m sure there’s a way to coat the whole stick without making a huge mess, but uh- I don’t know that way..)
Then I made some catappa tea for my betta.
My husband came through the kitchen while I was making the Repashy and commented on the “aroma” 🤣
Especially those green mixes ..quite fragrant
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Bigger tank rack plan any experience?
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Posted · Edited by mountaintoppufferkeeper
The general idea is this sketch. The difference is the rack will be 3 blocks long then one sideways
Using these 16x8x8 blocks
And 3/4" maple plywood in 2'x4' sections like the drawing. For this 270 gallon
Anyone done this kind of stand ? How far much of an overlap of plywood to block would you do? I am considering doing a cap stone for more surface area and resting the plywood on that vs the open block.
Any guidance on this one much appreciated.