Whitecloud09 Posted October 11 Author Share Posted October 11 On 10/10/2024 at 9:57 PM, Mmiller2001 said: Time to up your game. Learn the numbers. It’s easier to help when you report what’s actually going in and out. Why add iron when you don’t already know how much iron is being dosed? That said, .45ppm iron is around the sweet spot. Ok. Where could I get a test kit if that is a thing for these types of water parameters? I meant EG btw not WG. Thanks! I would need to test phosphate too correct? @Mmiller2001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitecloud09 Posted October 11 Author Share Posted October 11 https://www.amazon.com/Fluval-Aquarium-Water-Freshwater-Saltwater/dp/B092X3FHQ2/ref=sr_1_5?crid=3ILK25UFFN64M&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.KRzMPMhP157XyEosG1b-HQCAg-jVGUmYeaE-DvkEBoNzsqn_FpRvwOoB7acLUNmeBdbTaXxKqGGdqiu18pbK69PTopbUQKbUbVxSthxKI2ysSvN9ecQxg-86yjZ1Aj90OG31QElD2t2ruKjt4lZX7IsLoJJsE932qhHaIHUuGtinAyl6Ti936LF9EvyMNEYXpxtK7lDdSWE6Z_k4ZeKgRGYIeczTAistPeRLTPNNABEAzYoehxcabOb86sZPalyGLq2kkZ3XVg6hGUhVwhtLVZHLCHZjW_6qNZlvLPY9cGc.k_CXnDCvkj-EWbBpdLLOOukVdrf9uto1e6_F1VZ-dV0&dib_tag=se&keywords=iron+testing+kit+for+water+aquarium&qid=1728653698&sprefix=iron+testing+kit+for+water+aquarium%2Caps%2C82&sr=8-5 This? What do I need to test. Like, copper? Or phosphate or the hardness? If you could lay out each thing I would need to test to maintain good parameters that would be sweet @Mmiller2001. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmiller2001 Posted October 11 Share Posted October 11 On 10/11/2024 at 7:10 AM, Whitecloud09 said: Ok. Where could I get a test kit if that is a thing for these types of water parameters? I meant EG btw not WG. Thanks! I would need to test phosphate too correct? @Mmiller2001 Go the opposite and save the money. Learn how much you are adding into the tank with the products you are using currently. Example, what ppm of NPK and Fe does 1 pump for 10 gallons Easy Green add to water. They should list this somewhere on their website (hopefully). Any reputable place should and do. This is how I control my levels. Know what’s going in and what’s going out (water changes) so the appropriate amount can be added back in. The only tests I have are NO3 and PO4 and only use them is something really looks off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitecloud09 Posted October 11 Author Share Posted October 11 (edited) Yep. On the back of the bottle. @Mmiller2001 so 0.13% of iron for one pump per 10gs. Guaranteed Analysis: — Water Soluble Nitrogen (N) 2.66% — Available Phosphate (P2O5) 0.46% — Soluble Potash (K2O) 9.21% — Water Soluble Magnesium (Mg) 0.7% — Boron (B) 0.015% — Water Soluble Iron (Fe) 0.13% — Water Soluble Manganese (Mn) 0.036% — Molybdenum (Mo) 0.00098% — Water Soluble Zinc (Zn) 0.0072% NPK 2.66 - 0.46 - 9.21 Edited October 11 by Whitecloud09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmiller2001 Posted October 11 Share Posted October 11 On 10/11/2024 at 11:22 AM, Whitecloud09 said: Yep. On the back of the bottle. @Mmiller2001 so 0.13% of iron for one pump per 10gs. Guaranteed Analysis: — Water Soluble Nitrogen (N) 2.66% — Available Phosphate (P2O5) 0.46% — Soluble Potash (K2O) 9.21% — Water Soluble Magnesium (Mg) 0.7% — Boron (B) 0.015% — Water Soluble Iron (Fe) 0.13% — Water Soluble Manganese (Mn) 0.036% — Molybdenum (Mo) 0.00098% — Water Soluble Zinc (Zn) 0.0072% NPK 2.66 - 0.46 - 9.21 This is what you want to know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitecloud09 Posted Saturday at 02:22 PM Author Share Posted Saturday at 02:22 PM So how many pumps? For iron and such. 2? @Mmiller2001 Stay with what I am doing or make a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmiller2001 Posted Saturday at 02:24 PM Share Posted Saturday at 02:24 PM On 10/12/2024 at 8:22 AM, Whitecloud09 said: So how many pumps? For iron and such. 2? @Mmiller2001 Stay with what I am doing or make a change. You tell me. How many pumps do you add? Then based on 1 pump per 10 gallons, how much Fe are you adding (reported in ppm). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitecloud09 Posted Saturday at 02:26 PM Author Share Posted Saturday at 02:26 PM If I did 2 pumps that is 0.064 ppm. Iron (Fe) @Mmiller2001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmiller2001 Posted Saturday at 02:27 PM Share Posted Saturday at 02:27 PM On 10/12/2024 at 8:26 AM, Whitecloud09 said: If I did 2 pumps that is 0.064 ppm. Iron (Fe) @Mmiller2001 And you only add Easy Green? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitecloud09 Posted Saturday at 02:28 PM Author Share Posted Saturday at 02:28 PM On 10/12/2024 at 10:27 AM, Mmiller2001 said: And you only add Easy Green? Yes. Sorry it would be 0.068 ppm. not 64 Math in my brain is not working right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmiller2001 Posted Saturday at 02:34 PM Share Posted Saturday at 02:34 PM (edited) On 10/12/2024 at 8:28 AM, Whitecloud09 said: Yes. Sorry it would be 0.068 ppm. not 64 Math in my brain is not working right now. Based on that information, you are clearly low on Fe. I would recommend .25 to .45 Fe weekly. I’ll add that you would want a DPTA chelated iron (Fe) if your pH is above 7. Find a DPTA iron supplement and add .18ppm per week in addition to the .068 already added by easy green. Math: (.25-.068=.18). I would divide .18 by the amount of days you want to dose. So if you choose to dose 2 days over the week, .18/2=.09. .09Fe dose twice a week is .18ppm Fe. Edited Saturday at 02:44 PM by Mmiller2001 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitecloud09 Posted Saturday at 03:09 PM Author Share Posted Saturday at 03:09 PM (edited) Easy iron from AC. 1. For the 500 ml (16.9 oz) bottle: — Dose 1 pump (1 ml) per 10 gallons of water, 1-3 times a week — Each pump adds 0.26 ppm iron to 10 gallons of water — Treats 5,000 gallons total 2. For the 120 ml (4 oz) bottle: — Dose 2 drops per gallon of water, 1-3 times a week — Each dose of 2 drops adds 0.26 ppm iron to 1 gallon of water. — Treats 1,200 gallons total — Great for nano tanks under 10 gallons When in doubt, start low and increase the dosage after 2 weeks. Watch for signs of overdosing such as an increase in filamentous or hair algae. Excessive amounts of iron can be attributed to algae overgrowth in planted tanks. Guaranteed Analysis: Water Soluble Iron (Fe) 1% — Derived from Ferrous Gluconate, DTPA Iron, and EDTA Iron So one pump would be .26 ppm. So to much correct? This is derived from a DPTA iron source I think… @Mmiller2001 Edited Saturday at 03:20 PM by Whitecloud09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitecloud09 Posted Saturday at 03:16 PM Author Share Posted Saturday at 03:16 PM (edited) On 10/12/2024 at 10:34 AM, Mmiller2001 said: Find a DPTA iron supplement and add .18ppm per week in addition to the .068 already added by easy green. On 10/12/2024 at 10:34 AM, Mmiller2001 said: 18/2=.09. .09Fe dose twice a week is .18ppm Fe. Ppm? Oh I see .18 ppm so the .09 is ppm Edited Saturday at 03:19 PM by Whitecloud09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitecloud09 Posted Saturday at 03:23 PM Author Share Posted Saturday at 03:23 PM On 10/12/2024 at 10:34 AM, Mmiller2001 said: So if you choose to dose 2 days over the week, .18/2=.09. .09Fe dose twice a week is .18ppm Fe. Of EG correct? Sorry but I am not the best at math, just to let you know 😞. I see how everything works together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmiller2001 Posted Saturday at 04:01 PM Share Posted Saturday at 04:01 PM If you use Easy Iron, then 1 pump per 10 gallons is the starting point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWilk Posted Saturday at 10:32 PM Share Posted Saturday at 10:32 PM It doesn’t say specifically but I assume those ppm numbers are for “when diluted in 10 gal water”? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitecloud09 Posted Sunday at 11:13 AM Author Share Posted Sunday at 11:13 AM On 10/12/2024 at 6:32 PM, MWilk said: It doesn’t say specifically but I assume those ppm numbers are for “when diluted in 10 gal water”? I think so??? One pump for 10gs is measurement for ppm I’m pretty sure…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitecloud09 Posted 20 hours ago Author Share Posted 20 hours ago I am back from good ole rocky top 😄. I had a good vacation and now time for planning the scape. What kind of rock?? Dragon stone? Same as 20g? thoughts on stone for the scape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitecloud09 Posted 20 hours ago Author Share Posted 20 hours ago I plan to pickup the sand today at home depot. If I have time in the late afternoon. And the acrylic paint and roller, sponge etc. When the sand is in, I plan to make this order from ACO. Easy Iron Size: 500ml Qty Discounted total $14.99 Regular total Anubias Barteri Qty Discounted total $12.99 Regular total Vallisneria Qty Discounted total $9.99 Regular total Cryptocoryne Lucens Qty Discounted total $7.99 Regular total Cryptocoryne Tropica Qty Discounted total $7.99 Regular total Cryptocoryne Wendtii Green Qty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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