Schuyler Posted March 6, 2023 Author Share Posted March 6, 2023 (edited) Good news. Some of them are eating but they're not back to their begging puppy dog levels of eating yet. I imagine it will take them a few days to recover from the cold and whatever may have hurt their gills. Last night I made cardboard lids, stuck a seed warning mat between them, and covered all that with a blanket. This morning one tank was 77° and the other was 73°. I'm picking up a heater on my way home from work today. Something I forgot to mention was that I gave four of the males away to start evening out the sex ratios. Edited March 6, 2023 by Schuyler Forgot picture 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slick_Nick Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 On 3/6/2023 at 9:36 AM, Schuyler said: Good news. Some of them are eating but they're not back to their begging puppy dog levels of eating yet. I imagine it will take them a few days to recover from the cold and whatever may have hurt their gills. Last night I made cardboard lids, stuck a seed warning mat between them, and covered all that with a blanket. This morning one tank was 77° and the other was 73°. I'm picking up a heater on my way home from work today. Something I forgot to mention was that I gave four of the males away to start evening out the sex ratios. Looking good! The lids alone will help out holding some heat in! I don’t like the cold either so I know how they feel lol. Where did you give the males away to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schuyler Posted March 6, 2023 Author Share Posted March 6, 2023 On 3/6/2023 at 9:35 AM, Slick_Nick said: Where did you give the males away to? Just someone from a local Facebook aquarium group. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schuyler Posted March 7, 2023 Author Share Posted March 7, 2023 (edited) While I was at work my son (4 yo) checked on the fish and the boys were all laying on the bottom. He ran to tell mommy and she moved them all over to the girl tank which had the heater. Honestly, I can't believe I hadn't thought of that... The new heater is in and the temps leveled out so now the boys are back in their own tank so that the girls can get a break. But now everyone is looking much happier. There were quite a few coming up and begging. I heard someone in a podcast say "a begging fish is a healthy fish" and I can definitely see where he gets that now. It looks like the chlorine or drying out like off a bunch of the beneficial bacteria on the glass and sponge. Now there is a white haze. I did a 25% water change to try and clear some of that up but I also didn't want to risk stressing the fish with another large water change. The water doesn't show any ammonia in testing so at least that's good. We'll have to keep a close watch on them. Edited March 7, 2023 by Schuyler My son didn't move the fish 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slick_Nick Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 On 3/6/2023 at 10:17 PM, Schuyler said: While I was at work my son (4 yo) checked on the fish and the boys were all laying on the bottom. So she moved them all over to the girl tank which has the heater. Honestly, I can't believe I hadn't thought of that... The new heater is in and the temps leveled out so now the boys are back in their own tank so that the girls can get a break. But now everyone is looking much happier. There were quite a few coming up and begging. I heard someone in a podcast say "a begging fish is a healthy fish" and I can definitely see where he gets that now. It looks like the chlorine or drying out like off a bunch of the beneficial bacteria on the glass and sponge. Now there is a white haze. I did a 25% water change to try and clear some of that up but I also didn't want to risk stressing the fish with another large water change. The water doesn't show any ammonia in testing so at least that's good. We'll have to keep a close watch on them. Your 4 yo son moved them tanks? Glad to hear you got the new heater and things are looking better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schuyler Posted March 7, 2023 Author Share Posted March 7, 2023 On 3/6/2023 at 9:28 PM, Slick_Nick said: Your 4 yo son moved them tanks? Glad to hear you got the new heater and things are looking better! Oops... Yeah I need to clear that up. There's a missing sentence there where he told mommy about it and she moved them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slick_Nick Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 On 3/6/2023 at 11:10 PM, Schuyler said: Oops... Yeah I need to clear that up. There's a missing sentence there where he told mommy about it and she moved them I figured that’s what you meant I just wanted to be sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schuyler Posted March 10, 2023 Author Share Posted March 10, 2023 The killis got some frozen bloodworms today. It's always fun because they will come beg, I'll give them a worm, they'll swim off, munch on it for a while, and come back to beg again. That's filter floss pulled from my main canister filter to try and get more bacteria in the tank 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slick_Nick Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 On 3/10/2023 at 12:15 AM, Schuyler said: The killis got some frozen bloodworms today. It's always fun because they will come beg, I'll give them a worm, they'll swim off, munch on it for a while, and come back to beg again. That's filter floss pulled from my main canister filter to try and get more bacteria in the tank Those are some seriously pretty looking fish!!! Looks like everybody is back to doing well again great news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schuyler Posted March 15, 2023 Author Share Posted March 15, 2023 The fish seem to have fully rebounded from that rough patch. Now they are quite vibrantly colored again and seem to be going through a growth spurt. I am a bit miffed though... I don't think I'll be giving free fish to people unless I know them. I just saw a post on a Facebook group from the person I gave those killis to. She was looking to trade them for other fish. I guess they are her fish and she can do what she wants with them but it feels... Bad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slick_Nick Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 On 3/14/2023 at 10:52 PM, Schuyler said: The fish seem to have fully rebounded from that rough patch. Now they are quite vibrantly colored again and seem to be going through a growth spurt. I am a bit miffed though... I don't think I'll be giving free fish to people unless I know them. I just saw a post on a Facebook group from the person I gave those killis to. She was looking to trade them for other fish. I guess they are her fish and she can do what she wants with them but it feels... Bad Those males are so good looking! I’m happy to hear everyone recovered and is doing well! I am shocked someone would want to trade those fish away! I see where you’re coming from being that you were kind enough to give someone free fish and they are just trading them away now for something else. On the other hand hopefully now they will go to someone who will fully appreciate them! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schuyler Posted March 16, 2023 Author Share Posted March 16, 2023 Success! I introduced a male to the female tank with a spawning site. Sure enough, there's spawning going on: One step closer to completing the life cycle 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slick_Nick Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 On 3/16/2023 at 9:25 AM, Schuyler said: Success! I introduced a male to the female tank with a spawning site. Sure enough, there's spawning going on: One step closer to completing the life cycle Congrats that’s awesome! Is that just a glass jar with peat in it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schuyler Posted March 16, 2023 Author Share Posted March 16, 2023 On 3/16/2023 at 9:51 AM, Slick_Nick said: Congrats that’s awesome! Is that just a glass jar with peat in it? Yep just an old salsa jar that I boiled and scrubbed to get all the glue and food off. Then it's coco coir inside. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slick_Nick Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 On 3/16/2023 at 9:52 AM, Schuyler said: Yep just an old salsa jar that I boiled and scrubbed to get all the glue and food off. Then it's coco coir inside. Doesn’t get much easier than that! Looking forward to more updates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schuyler Posted March 17, 2023 Author Share Posted March 17, 2023 It's crazy how fast they establish a hierarchy. When I put the two males into the female tank they were roughly the same coloration. When I came to take them out the smaller one was much lighter. They really wear their feelings on their sleeve. I pulled the coco coir out to get an idea of how many eggs there were. I used some techniques I learned in my other Notho thread. I'm going to try incubating in warm water for three weeks and seeing how that goes. So I had a small cup of water and a swab with one the cut off (they recommended a toothpick but I didn't have one so I improved). I spread the coir out and any time I found an egg I would dip the cut end of the swab in the water, then touched it to the egg to pick it up, and dipped it in the water to add it to the cup. Now to store it at 85° for a few weeks and see if there's a visible change. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slick_Nick Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 On 3/16/2023 at 10:50 PM, Schuyler said: It's crazy how fast they establish a hierarchy. When I put the two males into the female tank they were roughly the same coloration. When I came to take them out the smaller one was much lighter. They really wear their feelings on their sleeve. I pulled the coco coir out to get an idea of how many eggs there were. I used some techniques I learned in my other Notho thread. I'm going to try incubating in warm water for three weeks and seeing how that goes. So I had a small cup of water and a swab with one the cut off (they recommended a toothpick but I didn't have one so I improved). I spread the coir out and any time I found an egg I would dip the cut end of the swab in the water, then touched it to the egg to pick it up, and dipped it in the water to add it to the cup. Now to store it at 85° for a few weeks and see if there's a visible change. Nice job! How will you keep the eggs at 85 degrees? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schuyler Posted March 18, 2023 Author Share Posted March 18, 2023 (edited) On 3/17/2023 at 6:39 AM, Slick_Nick said: Nice job! How will you keep the eggs at 85 degrees? I plan to keep them on a little box under my cat's heated bed. That's where I'm incubating some other eggs I have and it seems to keep them about that temp Edited March 18, 2023 by Schuyler 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schuyler Posted March 19, 2023 Author Share Posted March 19, 2023 Well roughly half of the eggs fungused up. Which makes me wonder how many do that normally and we just don't know because they're in the tank. I picked the clean ones out and put them in a new cup. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schuyler Posted March 20, 2023 Author Share Posted March 20, 2023 So far, no more signs of fungus Fingers crossed that these ones are fertilized and healthy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slick_Nick Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 On 3/19/2023 at 8:11 PM, Schuyler said: So far, no more signs of fungus Fingers crossed that these ones are fertilized and healthy Any idea how many eggs you’ve got from them so far? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schuyler Posted March 20, 2023 Author Share Posted March 20, 2023 On 3/19/2023 at 8:13 PM, Slick_Nick said: Any idea how many eggs you’ve got from them so far? That batch was just from one day and the are about 10-12 left. The plan is to get eggs while I have a bunch of them so that there is a little more diversity in the eggs. Then I'm going to downsize to a trio. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schuyler Posted April 5, 2023 Author Share Posted April 5, 2023 It worked! They skipped diapause II completely and they are already developing into embryos with little eyes any everything. I also made a little video. Making this definitely gave me a greater appreciation for how much work goes into the content ACO puts out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slick_Nick Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 On 4/4/2023 at 10:56 PM, Schuyler said: It worked! They skipped diapause II completely and they are already developing into embryos with little eyes any everything. I also made a little video. Making this definitely gave me a greater appreciation for how much work goes into the content ACO puts out. Great footage!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schuyler Posted April 10, 2023 Author Share Posted April 10, 2023 Someone was a bit overzealous about getting food this morning... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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