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10gal - room temp ~66F - pH 8.0 - ammonia/nitrite/nitrate all 0 (zero) per API kit - ? KH/GH - fish from a chain Pet Company store - set up and stocked about 4+ Weeks ago - one of dalmatian mollys started listing to left last week and died within 48h - tail of Tuxedo? noticed 3d ago to look ragged (pic). White spots that look like salt granules noticed 2-3d ago; seems like yest there were more on orange fish than today. There are “lesions” under mouths of orange and tuxedo fish (if you can see it in pics). Fish are eating great; live dalmatian is much more aggressive today and more frequently at top water line as well as the other two (Orange stays at top near sponge filter bubbler side). Dalmatian has been flashing for a couple weeks occasionally but much more so past 2d as well as other two fish. 2 Amanos, 3 glass and 2 small blue shrimp obliviously eating and growing very well. Plants were “culture plants” from same store and in good health growing entire time. Never had snails. Current fish + 3 others were in Axolotl tank x8 hours until those +3 were eaten overnight.


Just trying to give as much info on possible variables/factors that may/may not be significant. 












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Oh, more info. Squeezed sponge filter prev in axlotl tank into this tank at startup to boost bacteria. Haven’t done any water changes since startup either. I know I’m prob not doing things right and may be doing some “stupid” things. I’m not prideful or worried about looking like an idiot or admitting mistakes. Brand new to this and I want to learn. 

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Hi @TRichard, firstly welcome to the forum. I'm sorry it appears you are having issues. So yes it appears likely you have the start of Ich. This is not uncommon (IME) with new tanks and/or new possibly stressed already diseased fish which can happen coming from any fish store. I'm thinking maybe your tank isn't cycled because you should be reading some Nitrate to show that the bacteria is processing the ammonia/nitrite. It's good you squeezed out an old filter that can be helpful but I think you will need to start treating for Ich right away. Now there's another possiblity though- it could be Epistylis which is treated a bit differently than Ich and exacerbated by heat treatment while heat can be used to help treat Ich. So it's important to try and differentiate and start treatment before it gets out of control- as both these diseases can do. It's good you are catching this early. I will find the helpful chart our @Colu uses and post it here....

We all make mistakes in the beginning. Don't feel bad, these are sometimes great lessons to learn, and in catching something early hopefully you won't lose any fish. 

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The guppies fin looks like it been nipped possible being bullied by the Mollie's as you have shrimp what I would do is remove them and treat the main tank with ick x if your dealing with Epistylis the most effective treatment is kanaplex in food feeding a small amount twice a day for 7 days as epistylis feed's off gram negative bacteria on the skin of your fish and spreads more quickly at higher temperatures 


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