Colu Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 (edited) If you have done a 100% water change gradually over that time without adding salt back in should be all gone so you will be ok add the level of salt I suggested @Chick-In-Of-TheSea Edited July 22, 2022 by Colu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted July 22, 2022 Author Share Posted July 22, 2022 On 7/21/2022 at 7:44 PM, nabokovfan87 said: what was your dose on the first run? I did the level 1 salt treatment. On 7/21/2022 at 9:01 PM, Colu said: If you have do 100% water over gradually over that time without add salt backit should be all gone so you will be ok add the level of salt I suggested @Chick-In-Of-TheSea Thanks @Colu. I’ve been leaning on you a lot lately. Thanks for sticking with me. You as well @nabokovfan87. Medicating is out of my comfort zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 On 7/22/2022 at 2:18 AM, Chick-In-Of-TheSea said: Thanks @Colu. I’ve been leaning on you a lot lately. Thanks for sticking with me. Not a problem hopefully your on the final stretch 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabokovfan87 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 On 7/21/2022 at 6:18 PM, Chick-In-Of-TheSea said: I did the level 1 salt treatment. I think if you do a 40-50% WC (won't harm the fish or the tank) and then re-dose with level 1 again. You'll be fine. Even if it's slightly over level 1, level 2 is safe, and what most of us use. Level 3 being what is recommended by the ACO for issues such as yours. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted July 22, 2022 Author Share Posted July 22, 2022 (edited) On 7/21/2022 at 9:25 PM, nabokovfan87 said: I think if you do a 40-50% WC (won't harm the fish or the tank) and then re-dose with level 1 again. You'll be fine. Even if it's slightly over level 1, level 2 is safe, and what most of us use. Level 3 being what is recommended by the ACO for issues such as yours. I hesitate to go level 3, as what we are looking at could be damage rather than persisting illness. I am thinking we need to nurture their slime coat for a few. Changed 60% water so far. 30% this morning, then 30% this afternoon. The tank water is still discolored from the Jungle Fungus meds. Edited July 22, 2022 by Chick-In-Of-TheSea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabokovfan87 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 On 7/21/2022 at 6:29 PM, Chick-In-Of-TheSea said: Changed 60% water so far. 30% this morning, then 30% this afternoon. The tank water is still discolored from the Jungle Fungus meds. Right, but you might change.... 30% of the water initially ---> 30% of that new volume is changes (5-10% is old water, unknown). This is where I try to utilize 50% water changes for the sake of knowing that a good portion of the meds are removed. In treating my tank, I do 50% changes (sometimes more, sometimes less) and it took 3 for me to remove the meds and see the aeration return to normal. On 7/21/2022 at 6:29 PM, Chick-In-Of-TheSea said: I hesitate to go level 3, as what we are looking at could be damage rather than persisting illness. I am thinking we need to nurture their slime coat for a few. Makes sense. I think you'll be safely in the level 2 range or somewhere between 1 and 2. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted July 22, 2022 Author Share Posted July 22, 2022 On 7/21/2022 at 10:01 PM, nabokovfan87 said: 30% of the water initially ---> 30% of that new volume is changes (5-10% is old water, unknown). Hehe. Yeah I know…. I just didn’t want to change too much at once since they’ve been soaking in meds for a week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabokovfan87 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 Makes sense. I felt so bad for my shrimp, after treated with meds I wanted it out of the water right away! I was doing changes every 2-3 days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted July 26, 2022 Author Share Posted July 26, 2022 I believe all the meds have been water changed out at this point. The little guys are still doing well. Anytime I water change I carefully redose the salt that is removed. They are at the level 2 salt treatment. They are eating good. Frozen brine shrimp and Xtreme Krill. It is my understanding that columnaris could have killed them in 24-48 hours, then wiped out the entire tank. Is that right? It's that dangerous? If that's true, man did I get lucky! First thing I did was isolate them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 On 7/26/2022 at 2:25 PM, Chick-In-Of-TheSea said: I believe all the meds have been water changed out at this point. The little guys are still doing well. Anytime I water change I carefully redose the salt that is removed. They are at the level 2 salt treatment. They are eating good. Frozen brine shrimp and Xtreme Krill. It is my understanding that columnaris could have killed them in 24-48 hours, then wiped out the entire tank. Is that right? It's that dangerous? If that's true, man did I get lucky! First thing I did was isolate them. Depending on the stain of columnaris it can kill your fish in 24hr to 7 days it highly contagious and has a high mortality rate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted July 26, 2022 Author Share Posted July 26, 2022 Wow. We've been doing the treatment for what, almost 3 weeks? I'm proud. I've had no losses, and no one else was affected. All signs point to a full recovery for these guys. Thanks @Colu & @nabokovfan87! I saw someone's horror story on YouTube. She had a tank of gorgeous cichlids, and lost most of them to the disease. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 (edited) On 7/26/2022 at 5:08 PM, Chick-In-Of-TheSea said: Wow. We've been doing the treatment for what, almost 3 weeks? I'm proud. I've had no losses, and no one else was affected. All signs point to a full recovery for these guys. Thanks @Colu & @nabokovfan87! I saw someone's horror story on YouTube. She had a tank of gorgeous cichlids, and lost most of them to the disease. 24hr to 7 days is without treatment if you catch it early enough and start treatment they have good chance at recovering Edited July 26, 2022 by Colu 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabokovfan87 Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Nice work, very happy to hear the good news 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted July 28, 2022 Author Share Posted July 28, 2022 (edited) It’s been one week since the last checkup. Here they are today. I’m really not sure when to return them to the tank. I assume this is scarring. Otherwise if they had an active infection still they’d be dead, based on the timeline of this disease. Yet I still worry the disease could spread. @Colu @nabokovfan87 Edited July 28, 2022 by Chick-In-Of-TheSea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 I would keep them in quarantine for another 2weeks just to be on the safe side as you have seen no reoccurrence of symptoms I would just leave a low dose of salt in their and monitor after 2 week I think you will be fine reintroducing them to the main tank 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabokovfan87 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Do you have any repashy community blend on hand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted July 29, 2022 Author Share Posted July 29, 2022 (edited) On 7/28/2022 at 6:53 PM, nabokovfan87 said: Do you have any repashy community blend on hand? I don’t. I only have Soilent Green. I gave them some frozen brine shrimp this morning and a few Xtreme Krill. Edited July 29, 2022 by Chick-In-Of-TheSea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabokovfan87 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 On 7/29/2022 at 11:20 AM, Chick-In-Of-TheSea said: I only have Soilent Green. hm.... try that, mix in some krill flake maybe right before it sets! I would have to check the ingredients but it would have the vitamins and stuff that might be helpful for them right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted August 3, 2022 Author Share Posted August 3, 2022 Columnaris check-up: They’ve had a week off from any meds. Now I’m just doing level 1 salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted August 3, 2022 Author Share Posted August 3, 2022 Definitely has healed a lot in the last week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Their looking a lot better the damage to there side looks like it's improving as well @Chick-In-Of-TheSea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted August 5, 2022 Author Share Posted August 5, 2022 Uh oh. I started a salt treatment but never took that carbon out. Will carbon negate salt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 The only thing that will remove salt is water changes active carbon won't effect salt @Chick-In-Of-TheSea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted August 6, 2022 Author Share Posted August 6, 2022 Cool. Wasn’t sure. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted August 11, 2022 Author Share Posted August 11, 2022 Going to reintegrate these guys maybe tomorrow or Friday. I plan to do it after lights out to keep the stress level down. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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