Judobadger Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 In my 75 gallon display I lost a gold ram that started hiding for an extended time, bloated, and died. I thought it was due to aggression. The very next day the 2nd of 3 gold rams stopped eating and started hiding. I was able to catch it and move it to a hospital tank. I cant get it to eat, but I have, aquarium salt, Ich-x, para-cleanse, and maracyn oxy in the water. I am seeing no change. The fish is reclusive and refuses food. Any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLOBfish Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Call the place you got them, they can help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 On 1/27/2022 at 7:43 PM, Judobadger said: In my 75 gallon display I lost a gold ram that started hiding for an extended time, bloated, and died. I thought it was due to aggression. The very next day the 2nd of 3 gold rams stopped eating and started hiding. I was able to catch it and move it to a hospital tank. I cant get it to eat, but I have, aquarium salt, Ich-x, para-cleanse, and maracyn oxy in the water. I am seeing no change. The fish is reclusive and refuses food. Any ideas? What are your water parameters have you added anything new to the tank resently how long have you had them and did you treat them for parasites when you got them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judobadger Posted January 28, 2022 Author Share Posted January 28, 2022 On 1/27/2022 at 3:49 PM, BLOBfish said: Call the place you got them, they can help Not sure where your going with that...can you explain what you are thinking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judobadger Posted January 28, 2022 Author Share Posted January 28, 2022 (edited) On 1/27/2022 at 5:21 PM, Colu said: What are your water parameters have you added anything new to the tank resently how long have you had them and did you treat them for parasites when you got them They have been in the tank for 2 months. Last fish were added a month ago from the same breeder. I didn't treat them. Parameters are (via coop test strip) 10 nitrate, 0 nitrite, 300 ppm GH, 80 ppm KH, 7.41 ph and 0 chlorine. Liquid test gives 7 dkh gh, 5 dkh kh, 2.5 ppm nitrate, 0 ammonia, 0 nitrite. From my apex controller ph is 7.41 and temp 79.6. I can do liquid tests later. Fish were bread in higher ph harder water. Tank is planted with 2 gallon per day auto change. Picture for reference. Edited January 29, 2022 by Judobadger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLOBfish Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 how long have you had these fish, did you just buy them? if so maybe they are not use to the food and they might have had different water parameters. just throwing some ideas out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 As they have gone off their food and with the bloating it could be internal parasites as you have done one course of paracleanse what I would do is follow up in two weeks from the initial treatment with another course of paracleanse I would also do a course of Fritz Expel p as that requires one dose leave 24hr then a water change once a week for 3 weeks to cover all bases 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judobadger Posted January 28, 2022 Author Share Posted January 28, 2022 On 1/28/2022 at 7:39 AM, Colu said: As they have gone off their food and with the bloating it could be internal parasites as you have done one course of paracleanse what I would do is follow up in two weeks from the initial treatment with another course of paracleanse I would also do a course of Fritz Expel p as that requires one dose leave 24hr then a water change once a week for 3 weeks to cover all bases To be more clear just the ram has stopped eating and been moved to a hospital tank, but I will assume treating the entire tank is a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 On 1/28/2022 at 4:19 PM, Judobadger said: To be more clear just the ram has stopped eating and been moved to a hospital tank, but I will assume treating the entire tank is a good idea. Yes I would treat the main tank for parasites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judobadger Posted January 29, 2022 Author Share Posted January 29, 2022 @ColuMy main tank is very cloudy today after removing carbon from the cannister and dosing paracleanse. Should I be concerned? I am not sure if it's due to messing with the filter or the med. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anewbie Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) On 1/27/2022 at 6:40 PM, Judobadger said: They have been in the tank for 2 months. Last fish were added a month ago from the same breeder. I didn't treat them. Parameters are (via coop test strip) 10 nitrate, 0 nitrite, 300 ppm GH, 80 ppm KH, 7.410 chlorine. Liquid test gives 7 dkh gh, 5 dkh kh, 2.5 ppm nitrate, 0 ammonia, 0 nitrite. From my apex controller ph is 7.41 and temp 79.6. I can do liquid tests later. Fish were bread in higher ph harder water. Tank is planted with 2 gallon per day auto change. Picture for reference. 7.41 chlorine is troubling also i would try raising the temp at least for a short time to 83 or 84; then let it settle back down to 82. The angels object to the warmer waters but do you have anything else in the aquarium ? Rams are very delicate and bloat/stop eating is likely not due to parasite but something else upset them. They are very sensitive to sudden changes in temp and generally prefer softer waters (despite being raised in harder water). Edited January 29, 2022 by anewbie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judobadger Posted January 29, 2022 Author Share Posted January 29, 2022 On 1/29/2022 at 1:34 PM, anewbie said: 7.41 chlorine is troubling also i would try raising the temp at least for a short time to 83 or 84; then let it settle back down to 82. The angels object to the warmer waters but do you have anything else in the aquarium ? Rams are very delicate and bloat/stop eating is likely not due to parasite but something else upset them. They are very sensitive to sudden changes in temp and generally prefer softer waters (despite being raised in harder water). That was a typo. It 7.41 ph and 0 chlorine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 On 1/29/2022 at 3:24 PM, Judobadger said: @ColuMy main tank is very cloudy today after removing carbon from the cannister and dosing paracleanse. Should I be concerned? I am not sure if it's due to messing with the filter or the med. Meds often cause cloudy water as long as you water parameters are fine then I would just add an extra air stone it will clear in a couple of days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judobadger Posted January 31, 2022 Author Share Posted January 31, 2022 On 1/29/2022 at 6:51 PM, Colu said: Meds often cause cloudy water as long as you water parameters are fine then I would just add an extra air stone it will clear in a couple of days It did and thank you again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judobadger Posted February 5, 2022 Author Share Posted February 5, 2022 The ram that I moved to a hospital tank has started eating, but has also developed some gruesome growths on both sides of its head. Do these pictures I'd issue? I have been assume septicemia, but would like the help of an experienced eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 (edited) Looks like the start of possible hole in the head I would treat with metroplex in food or paracleanse in food he's a medicated food recipe for metroplex and paracleanse Edited February 6, 2022 by Colu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judobadger Posted February 6, 2022 Author Share Posted February 6, 2022 I have been giving medicated food with kanaplex/metroplex using focus and garlic guard so I am good there. I am not sure how much it eats vs the snails. This fish didn't eat at all a week ago, but I see it sifting through sand now so I am believe its eating when I am not watching (at least a little). Thank you again for the advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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