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Oh!! @T. Payne thanks so much for that insight! Super happy to hear that! Can i ask what the flow rate is in your tank? The tawa can handle flow pretty well?
On 4/30/2024 at 4:15 PM, T. Payne said:I'm currently keeping my kali tawas with corydoras and gobies with no issue.
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Hey there! Beautiful pics!!
@Hoon Aquatics or anyone else, I’m considering a peaceful mid-top fish for my 40B river setup, and am super interested in the Kali Tawa. Does anyone know if these fish work well with stiphodon gobies and corydoras? Or would they completely outcompete them for food? I always target feed the bottom dwellers with wafers/repashy and am wondering if the kali tawa would hoard the food on the bottom, even if there’s food up top?
here’s a pic of my setup, if it helps.
thank you for any insights!
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Ah thank you!!
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On 7/2/2022 at 5:46 PM, Hoi Polloi said:
I have these fish.
When I purchased them I was advised to have a 2 females to every one male. Currently, I have 5 females and two males. They are not readily available in my area, only one LFS carries them intermittingly.They get along very well with other fish and at times swim with the Harlequin Rasboras.
Since they have small mouths, I crush the pellets into smaller bite size for them. ( I think I spoil them).
My tank has moderate cover and they stay in the open water most often.
@Hoi Polloi do these fish enjoy some moderate flow like other rainbow fish?
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@anewbie For sure! Yes her territory is much smaller. The juvies are smart so they should keep away. Ok thank you! It would help a lot if i can consolidate temporarily. THANK YOU SO MUCH! 🙏🙏🙏 I’m sure you’ll hear from me again 🤣🫣
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@anewbie I have 2 little apisto trif from the pair’s first batch in a 10G. I want to consolidate tanks to raise the fry and remove the dad for a while. If I remove the dad from the 22L, can I add the 2 juveniles into the 22L(36x12x12) with the mom and new fry to finish growing out? There’s a lot of hardscape and plants for them to hide from their mom while she protects her new fry. I will try to sell/give them away once they get big enough. Thoughts? Here’s a pic of the 22L tank again.
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Yeah…thx for the tips. The cory are very naive and keep going into the mom’s area, but she is actually not too bad towards them. She is more aggressive with the male. But yeah, i hear you. It hasn’t been too terrible but there is a bit of chasing. Poor cories.
It’s hard to ignore the fry. I get too excited when they’re in there and then I want to keep them 🙈 But yeah I shouldnt feed them. Or maybe it’s best to separate the male/female. I do need a top dwelling fish, my tank always looks empty. I dunno, i guess i’ll just feel bad either way 🙈 Next time all male apisto tank 🫠
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@anewbie thank you! I don’t have any tetra in this tank yet, just corys and a few endlers that always stay at the top. Ive been using a baster to target feed with infusoria and bbs, i think thats how i have so many fry versus the first time. My male seems very persistent when it comes to breeding, i may have to take him out sooner to let mom care for the fry 😅🤦 But they are also a young couple so maybe he will learn to be more patient.
i got kind of panicky last night thinking about how to care for all the bebes in the future 🤣🙈 I am def going to raise this batch, but it occurred to me this cycle will continue if I leave the pair in the display tank - they were so quick to respawn! I prob can’t handle multiple batches, I still have two fry from two spawns ago and still waiting to sex them (been since last September!). I guess the only real way to control breeding is with tetras (predators) or separating the male/female apistos. I have a decision to make 😭🫥
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@anewbie It looks like my trifasciata spawned again and we have 23-25 little fry hanging out with the mother!! How long should I keep the fry with the mother in the display tank before I remove them? My thought is to let the mom raise the fry for a few weeks and remove dad when he starts to get agro. After a few weeks, I’ll suck the remaining fry out with a turkey baster and put them into a 10G to grow out. I could keep them in the planted display tank but i’m also thinking how painful it will be to remove them when they get too fast for me to catch. What do you think?
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On 3/7/2024 at 1:27 PM, anewbie said:
I'd remove him but a lot depends on how the tank is setup (scaped).
Trifasciata like cockatoo are not pair forming; the male just wants to breed and in a crude sense provides a safe environment for the female to raise her frys but he does not help in fry raising and if the area is small he might keep trying to breed with her even if she has fry. It is the problem with a small glass box. Also Triasciata m/f aggression can be quite high.
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If she can't find a safe haven for raising the fry - in some cases the female will kill the male but in this case it sounds like he is too much for her to handle.
If you want pair forming species of apistogramma look for panduro or nijjensi. They don't necessarily mate for life but the male and female will bond and both will care for the fry and there is not so much aggression between them when it comes to raising frys.
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The way it works with polygamous species of apistogramma is the male defines a territory. This territory can be quite large but it depends on the species. If a female wants to breed with that male she will enter his territory and find an area to be her territory to raise the frys; signal the male and lay eggs. The male guards the larger parameter. With small glass boxes we can run into a number of issues:
First the female has no choice she can't leave his territory; 2nd tanks are frequently scaped with inadequate hiding locations for the female; third if the female doesn't want to breed she has no place to go and last there is a limit number of available females for the male to breed with which means he focus too much attention on fewer females.
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The female is the sole provider to the frys in this case and the male only interest is in guarding the larger area and checking on females to see if they want to breed or driving them away from his territory.
In the case of my wc cockatoo they have pretty much claim most of a 40B so we can see that their area can be fairly large. I could probably have gotten away with a 2nd female in there but certainly no other male or other species of cichild.
There is another problem that these fishes use complex signals to 'talk' to each other and with domestic fishes often the process of producing enhance colouring has also made it much more difficult for them to signal their intention to each other and other fishes.
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For example domestic angelfishes you rarely see strong changes in colouring base on mood; but with wild angelfishes (altum); you will see their strips get much darker and their fins raise showing obvious intention of aggression. Fishes around them will take these signals serious and give them some space. I see this all the time with my festivum - when angry they get very very dark very quickly and the other cichild immediately respond by giving him some space rather than obtaining a nasty bite.
@anewbie Omg THANK YOU SO MUCH for such a detailed and informative explanation! I wish i had a different species 🤣🫥 Ironically i got them bc i saw ppl mention that trifasciafa are good beginner apistos and a trifasciata breedinf video said you could keep the parents together 🤣☠️ Now I’m uncovering all these other truths! Unfortunately my QT is being occupied and the other tanks are high flow or housing my first set of apisto fry (another story ). I’ll try to move him out asap, but i am worried about their aggression 🫣 Thank you again!
@anewbiehere’s a photo of my setup. I redid it to try to do more sight blocks but i dunno 🤷 I added more leaf litter and twigs to do more blocks but it might be too late 🫣
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@anewbie- My male trifasciata is currently somewhat harrassing my female apisto as well, as she is trying to raise fry. They seem to be bickering more. The fry are still super small and need her around. So it’s okay to keep the male in the tank? The first time I did this, I removed him, but it would be my preference to keep him in the 22L (36x12x12) b/c I’m out of tanks and space 😕 Thanks for any insight!
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Ok thank u @Colu🙏🙏🙏 You’re so helpful and considerate. I went over to apistogramma.com to ask the same question and it is definitely a different vibe over there 😅🫥 Thank you again and I’ll watch the fry closely , do more water changes just in case.
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Than you @Colu ❤️ hopefully the other 3 fry won’t catch what it had. They are half the size and seem to fine so far 🤞
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Thank you @Colu, i’m doing it now 💔 it’s so small and chubby 😿
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@Colu @tolstoy21 i think the little one is not so good, i found it on its side. Its in a measuring cup right now but yeah…i wonder if clove oil would be the kinder thing to do :(( It’s strange this is happening to the biggest/strongest one - i think it is an injury of some sort in the gill or mouth, it hasn’t opened it’s mouth much at all the last couple days. Sad.
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Thank you @Coluand @tolstoy21so much for your insights. Yeah it does look inflamed right? :((( I know, things like this happen to fry all the time - I only have 4 babies that “made it”, and this one is the biggest and a little piggy. I’ll be sad to lose it…i’ll see if i can find another container . Omg i was trying to downsize tanks 🤣🙈
@Colu - i will try the maracyn2, i have some. I need to get a container. Def something wrong. I threw in some live daphnia it normally goes crazy for and it is not going after them :((( It is a little more active than yesterday, but not eating 😭
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Hi Community,
I’m not sure but wondering if one of my apisto fry is sick? This little apisto trifasciata juvie has been sitting in the hair algae all day. I think it’s a she? Her gills seem swollen - or sticking out’ish - and she’s breathing a little fast? Does the inside of her head seem a little pink too or am I just overthinking?
Posted a video link. I did a big water change and added 2 tsp of salt to the 10 gallon growout tank just in case and wondering if there’s anything to be worried about. The other 3 juveniles seem fine. Any insight us much appreciated!! 🙏🙏🙏
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@Tlindsey Thanks for your input, appreciate it!
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On 1/10/2024 at 8:30 PM, Tlindsey said:
@Jaspyjasp I personally would be worried if the parents spawned. The smaller apisto would be harassed by the parents. Your aquarium is heavily planted that may help.
Hey @Tlindsey
they have not spawned yet. They had (obviously that first time) but now that they’re back together, the daddy has not been that happy with mom back in the tank. Wondering if adding another female might help? But yeah i dont want the little babe to get too harrassed generally as it’s about 3/4”.
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Hey community !
Is it ok to move a 5 month yr old apisto female in with her parents in the display tank? I JUST rearranged their tank so im thinking this could be a good time? 👀Their tank is 36x12x12 with a lot of plants and nooks/caves. Or should I continue to raise her bigger? I’m asking bc there are two more apisto fry that are also 5 months but 1/4 if the size!! Want to get them to be bigger but maybe they can’t because the dominant one is so “big” (??)
Thank u for any insight! Theres not a lot about when to add juvenile apistos back with their parents on the web :((
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Hey community !
Is it ok to move a 5 month yr old apisto female in with her parents in the display tank? I JUST rearranged their tank so im thinking this could be a good time? 👀 Their tank is 36x12x12 with a lot of plants and nooks/caves. Or should I continue to raise her bigger?
Thank u for any insight! Theres not a lot of this on the web :((
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@Colu@nabokovfan87 @Chick-In-Of-TheSea Our little buddy has gone thru two round of ichX and kanaplex and looking great!! Thank you all for helping save his life ❤️🙏🙏🙏
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On 10/17/2023 at 9:06 PM, Fish Folk said:
My initial guess is a dark strain Medaka fry (Japanese Rice Fish)…
oOoOooO…LOVE that guess, and that would be awesome!! 😻thank u for ur insight! I’m so excited to see how it develops and will update this thread periodically!!
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Hello community!
I found this stowaway in my tank. Little black fry about 1/4”….I have no idea where it came from except that I bought some new floating plants 2 weeks ago. I only have bottom dwellers and a lone apistogramma male in the tank so I know it’s not any of them 😆 I’m amazed the egg or fry survived bc I washed the plants vigorously under tap water O_o Life is amazing!
Probably too soon to tell, but can anyone identify what this little guy could be? It’s mostly all black. I’m thinking guppy, but I have no idea. It stays near the surface of the water.
Thanks for any insight and guesses! 🤔
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Melanotaenia sp. Kali Tawa rainbowfish project
in Fish Breeding
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Ahhh. Ok. I have mine fairly moderate for the gobies and garra. They like it. Maybe i can change it up on a timer or something 🤔 Thanks for the info!