Discus Med Trio Panic

[Daisy]

Problem

1. Please explain the problems with your fish. When did you notice the problems and did anything unusual happen that you think started them?

Several Discus with different problems after adding new quarantined Discus which had ammonia damage to fins.  I euthanized 1 of the New fish, which was suffering. 


2. Symptoms (i.e. turning dark, excess slime, not eating, clamped fins, flashing, darting, clamped gills, white/yellow/green poop, hiding, headstanding or tailstanding, white on tips of fins, rotting or fungus, blisters/white zits on fish, bloated, cloudy eyes, wounds).

New Discus, gill damage, not eating

#1 fish, developed fin rot and white patches, clamping, darkened (eating well)

#2 hiding, hiding, no appetite 

#3 gills slightly inflamed 

 

 

 

3. What medications/ treatments have you already tried and what were the results. Include dosage and duration of treatment.

The original new Discus was treated with Maracyn, Kanaplex. Salt and Metro over a 4 month period. The display tank has been treated with metronidazole every 8 weeks.  After new problems started and several different issues I started the med trio. The Original  new weak guy died 2 hours after treating. Probably for the betterment of his tank mates😢


Tank/Water

4. Tank size and ages, numbers and sizes of fish.

I have a 125g with a 40 g sump. There are now 8 adult discus from 5 1/2" to "6. 

4 raspboras

I use RO water with added gh/kh to accomplish gh of 7, kh of 4


5. Water change regime (What percentage and how often).
50%  weekly

6. How long has tank been running? Is it bare bottom? If you have substrate, what type and how deep is it?

Up for 4 years, 1/4" deep sand


7. Do you age your water? If you do for how long and what is the ph swing.

i age reconstituted RO for 48 hours, and PH is always 7.5-7.6


8. What type/brand water conditioner do you use? Do you add it to the tank or aging barrel? How much do you use?

no conditioner, Brightwell aquatics gh& kh to accomplish gh 7 , kh 4


9. Parameters and water source;
 

Note: Water Parameters are important in diagnosing problems within a tank. If you don't own test kits for the following information, you can purchase them, test your parameters and post this info as soon as possible.

- temp 84-85 F

- ph 7.5
Todays readings on day 2 of trio (stable )
- ammonia reading  0

- nitrite reading  0

- nitrate reading  o

What type of water or combinations of water sources do you use? If it is an RO/tap/well water mix, please list percentages in the mix.

- well water ____

- municipal water ____

- RO water 100%

10. Any new fish, plants or inverts added recently.
2 New fish( now dead)

11. Please tell us what you feed your fish and how often. This can be critical information for solving the problem so be as specific as you can.

2 TIMES Daily Ifeed Discus gran /Vibra Bites/Bug Bites and live black worms



12. Include any pictures or videos you have which shows the symptoms. If you can't add them to this post, please provide a link to them.

[Cory]

I read through your post, but was there a question?

[Daisy]

Yes… should I do a water change to relieve the stress on the fish, or wait it out for the 7 days.
 I’m not sure how much stress is expected, or what’s considered normal.  TY

 

[Tony s]

Sorry for your loss. Just a couple of quick questions. Did you ask what the water parameters of the place you got your new ones from? Most people keep discus In much lower ph. Maybe caused a ph shock? Will they take pellets? Or just beef heart? If they take pellets, you could feed them maracyn2. Mixing in some seachem focus and garlic guard. If you tried Kanaplex in food it may not have worked. Kanaplex is not absorbed well into the bloodstream. Maracyn2 is better there. The quarantine trio isn’t going to help you much if you use it at the lower dose. It’s more of a prophylactic there. If you’re using them all at full strength, it may be too much for your discus. Sometimes what they say you can do doesn’t work in your situation. I just crashed my 75g angle tank using Maracyn and maracyn2 together. Which fritz says you can do. But every situation is different.

if you think they’re struggling, absolutely do a water change. If the medicine is harming them, stop the treatment. Wait a couple of days for them to recover a bit, then try something new.

 

let’s see if @Colu has any suggestions 

[Colu]

Could be a couple of things going on white blister could be the start of hold in the head with out a picture it's difficult to say for sure some of the other symptoms you described black patches over production of the slime coat rapid breathing flashing fin rot clamped fins can be a sign of discus plague that a viral infections if you can post some pictures of the affected fish @Daisy