Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 (edited) Hi all. Flint was at the front of the tank today, and I noticed patches on him. Is this illness or just part of his coloration pattern? Other fish in the tank are not presenting any symptoms. Temp 75 amm 0 nitri 0 nitra 25 gH 150 kH 180 pH 7.2-7.6 (hard to tell) chlor 0 Will he snag in a net? Should use a cup to catch him, yes? I have a QT tank cycled and ready to go. I have a water change and siphon on the schedule today as well. Trust me, I’m well aware of the detritus problem. Detritus collects quickly at his hangouts. Super high bioload; what you see is all from him! Water is changed/tank siphoned weekly. Update: he’s in a QT. Meds in stock are : Edited March 23 by Chick-In-Of-TheSea Updated w/ meds 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony s Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 I would use the fungus fizz tab and the maracyn or kanaplex. @Coluhas a recipe for this. looks like 2 to 3 locations on the body side. Front, under dorsal, and at tail 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony s Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Okay, yeah he could snag. But should be relatively easy to Sunday. White patches could be fungus or some injury. He could have gotten himself into tight spots and scraped. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guppysnail Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 I agree with @Tony s. It looks more like rubs than illness. If he has a cave feel the inside. My dad had that happen. The insides of the caves are often unusually rough textured. Jungle tabs and kanaplax heal him right up. I always add 1/8 TEAspoon salt per 10 gallons for dad as well and turn bubbles to max by adding extra airstones. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted March 23 Author Share Posted March 23 On 3/23/2024 at 2:22 PM, Guppysnail said: I agree with @Tony s. It looks more like rubs than illness. If he has a cave feel the inside. My dad had that happen. The insides of the caves are often unusually rough textured. Jungle tabs and kanaplax heal him right up. I always add 1/8 TEAspoon salt per 10 gallons for dad as well and turn bubbles to max by adding extra airstones. That’s the course I was considering. No decor in the tank besides plants and spiderwood. I used to have a cave in there but took it out because he wasn’t interested in it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 (edited) On 3/23/2024 at 6:46 PM, Chick-In-Of-TheSea said: That’s the course I was considering. No decor in the tank besides plants and spiderwood. I used to have a cave in there but took it out because he wasn’t interested in it. My bristlenose get this it's usually rubbed when a trapping occurs I leave it a lone and it always heals with out any need for treatment Edited March 23 by Colu 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony s Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 On 3/23/2024 at 12:43 PM, Tony s said: Okay, yeah he could snag. But should be relatively easy to Sunday So. Typing on my iPhone doesn’t always work the best….. apparently I have no idea what Sunday has to do with anything. 🤣 I don’t even remember what I was trying to say. It’s a good thing @Guppysnail and @Colu were great at interpreting 😂 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted March 24 Author Share Posted March 24 On 3/23/2024 at 9:42 PM, Tony s said: So. Typing on my iPhone doesn’t always work the best….. apparently I have no idea what Sunday has to do with anything. 🤣 I don’t even remember what I was trying to say. It’s a good thing @Guppysnail and @Colu were great at interpreting 😂 He was relatively easy to catch on Saturday. 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted March 26 Author Share Posted March 26 (edited) I woke up this morning and panicked- the water in Flint’s QT tank was all cloudy. The night before I had siphoned the debris and dosed with phase 2: JF. Also the tiniest kelp nugget for him, which I believe he consumed because I didn’t see it anywhere in the tank later. Anyway, I changed 50% of the water before heading off to work. I don’t trust cloudy water. It makes me very nervous. Came home and tank is clear. Did the 3rd phase (JF + Kanaplex). Too early to tell if it’s working. He looks all bruised, as shown in the OP, poor fella. I had a small chunk of driftwood in QT because he loves wood, but I took it out. I decided it was too abrasive/too many edges could snag him. Replaced with a very smooth ceramic pleco cave, because he does want to bolt when I introduce light (only used to check symptoms). Now he has a safe place. Offered small kelp nugget again but I will check back on it in 30 min and remove it if it is still there (just in case that was the cause of the cloudy water). Also tested ammonia which is 0. Edited March 26 by Chick-In-Of-TheSea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted March 26 Author Share Posted March 26 (edited) Here is the treatment in progress. Sorry for the typos. This is a screenshot so I can’t edit. He looked too bad to not treat. I have used this treatment in the past for a different illness, columnaris, and it cleared it up every time. Hoping for good results again this time. On 3/23/2024 at 2:22 PM, Guppysnail said: It looks more like rubs than illness. I feel like it’s a possibility he got behind the PFS and then got all wiggly. Those things are like dish scrubbers. (Or uh, fish scrubbers?) 🙃 Edited March 26 by Chick-In-Of-TheSea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted March 26 Author Share Posted March 26 (edited) On 3/25/2024 at 10:32 PM, Chick-In-Of-TheSea said: I woke up this morning and panicked- the water in Flint’s QT tank was all cloudy 2nd panic of the day!!!!!1!1!!!1!!!!! I double dosed the Kanaplex! And didn’t realize it til 10 or 15 min later! I’ve been so careful to cut and weigh the JF tabs, and drop the water line by a half gallon in the 5.5 tank. But I absentmindedly doubled the Kanaplex (did 2 scoops) because my previous qt was 10 gal and dosing that amount became habit! Omg what a dum dum. Emergency 50 % water change. Flint seems fine. I, however, am about to lose my marbles over here. I will probably not dose tomorrow and just let him relax. Edited March 26 by Chick-In-Of-TheSea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted March 26 Author Share Posted March 26 Checked on my buddy this morning. He is happily eating the catappa leaf. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 On 3/26/2024 at 11:09 AM, Chick-In-Of-TheSea said: Checked on my buddy this morning. He is happily eating the catappa leaf. Am not a fan of long fined bristlenose it's two easy for them to damage there fin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted March 27 Author Share Posted March 27 On 3/26/2024 at 7:48 AM, Colu said: Am not a fan of long fined bristlenose it's two easy for them to damage there fin Yeah. in this case the fins are not the issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 On 3/27/2024 at 3:13 AM, Chick-In-Of-TheSea said: Yeah. in this case the fins are not the issue I only keep and breed short fin bristlenose I seen the long fin bristlenose break fins rays tear fins if you use caves that are to small they can damage there fins body rubbing is common occurrence in my bristlenose especially when breeding 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted April 2 Author Share Posted April 2 (edited) The last few days I’ve just been doing water changes. The med course was completed and there is carbon and a chunk of poly-filter in there. It is taking some time for him to heal. I did not add any salt because I’m nervous about it as he is a scaleless fish. fin is a little frayed at the edge now. Not from netting. I caught him in a solo cup. I guess it is stress from the meds. Looks a little skinny since I haven’t been feeding much while I treated. Tiny amounts. I gave him a piece of morning wood Repashy today. Sidenote: look at his cute whiskers Just for comparison, this is what he looks like when healthy. Keep in mind the lighting is way different in these photos as well. Edited April 2 by Chick-In-Of-TheSea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony s Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 He is beautiful. But it looks like the areas have gotten bigger? Hopefully it’s just a matter of healing the damaged areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted April 2 Author Share Posted April 2 On 4/1/2024 at 10:07 PM, Tony s said: He is beautiful. But it looks like the areas have gotten bigger? Hopefully it’s just a matter of healing the damaged areas. I think you’re right @Tony s. I’m not sure what’s going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony s Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 @Colu trying to figure out if treatment worked with white growth, or something else is needed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 (edited) Is the white spot on a fin ray if it is it could be a callus that's formed on a broken fin ray doesn't look like it has a fuzzy appearance what i would do is add some Indian almond leaves and a small amount of aquarium salt 1 table spoon for 5 gallons Edited April 2 by Colu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted April 2 Author Share Posted April 2 Thanks guys I put 2 more leaves and 1/2 tbsp salt. He’s in a 5.5gal tank. I already had one leaf in there, mainly for food, but the tannins were being removed by the carbon and the poly filter. I took the carbon and the poly filter out, and I cannot see a blue tint to the water anymore from the jungle fungus tabs. He has had three or four water changes since the medication course ended. On 4/2/2024 at 6:05 AM, Colu said: Is the white spot on a fin ray @Colu the patches got larger. Not raised. Off white Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guppysnail Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 On 4/1/2024 at 9:52 PM, Chick-In-Of-TheSea said: I’m nervous about it as he is a scaleless fish. They are considered “armored” and are not part of the scaleless fish category. That is a myth. They tolerate salt quite well. Maybe feed more so he has the calorie resources to heal. Just like we tell humans you have to eat to keep up your strength when they are sick. I hope he feels better soon. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted April 2 Author Share Posted April 2 On 4/2/2024 at 7:08 AM, Guppysnail said: They are considered “armored” and are not part of the scaleless fish category. That is a myth. They tolerate salt quite well. Maybe feed more so he has the calorie resources to heal. Just like we tell humans you have to eat to keep up your strength when they are sick. I hope he feels better soon. The Repashy morning wood I gave him last night was like the size of a half of a die (dice). It was gone by morning. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted April 2 Author Share Posted April 2 And then he made 100 poops. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick-In-Of-TheSea Posted April 4 Author Share Posted April 4 (edited) So it seems Flint was activating his camouflage and wasn’t actually sick. I returned him to the tank and he toned down the camouflage after he made the grand tour enjoying every wall, wood, and plant. Thanks @Lennie for reaching out to a pleco researcher on our behalf. Edited April 4 by Chick-In-Of-TheSea 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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