JesseDubs Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 I noticed today that my honey gourami is more lethargic than usual, as if he's having trouble swimming. He's been either hanging at the surface or down near the bottom, or even in the roots of floating plants, sometimes tilted to one side. There also appears to be a swollen area on his left side/tail: I'm thinking maybe this is the swim bladder? I saw him eat a little bit and poop today so I don't think it's constipation. I'll still avoid feeding anymore for a couple days though. pH: ~7.6 | ammonia: 0 | nitrites: 0 | nitrates: ~10 | temp: 72 F I've had him for about 4 months. Only tankmates right now are 6 male endlers, 2 nerite snails, and some ramshorns. Everyone else seems to be doing fine. Any help with a diagnosis or advice would be appreciated. I love this little guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 (edited) It could be a growth or an internal blockage as it's passed some waste that's less likely it could have a bacterial component what I would suggest with some of the symptoms your describing I would quarantine and leave a low dose of Epsom salt in the tank 1 table spoon for 5 gallons for 7days and I would do a course of kanaplex just in case there's a bacterial component Edited November 28, 2023 by Colu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseDubs Posted November 28, 2023 Author Share Posted November 28, 2023 Thanks for the reply Colu - I always appreciate your input. I can get started with the epsom salt first thing after work, but I'll have to make a trip to get some kanaplex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guppysnail Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 On 11/28/2023 at 4:50 PM, Colu said: It could be a growth or an internal blockage as it's passed some waste that's less likely it could have a bacterial component what I would suggest with some of the symptoms your describing I would quarantine and leave a low dose of Epsom salt in the tank 1 table spoon for 5 gallons for 7days and I would do a course of kanaplex just in case there's a bacterial component One of my honey gourami had the exact same thing. This is what I did for about 2 weeks. He cleared right up and over a year later is still doing wonderfully. As always @Colu has wonderful advice 🤗 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Mom Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 One of our honey gourami is doing the same thing but is in worse shape. It is very weak. We have it in a hospital tank with a heater but we are not running the filter because it cannot swim if there is any current. It swims to the top to get air, then sinks back down to the bottom and lays there - head up and tilted to the side a bit. Should I try epsom salt as well? There does appear to be a small bump or maybe a curve to its spine near the tail but I cannot get a picture because it’s too weak to hold itself upright for long. Not bloated and no obvious body or scale issues other than the bump near the tail. If anything, it looks on the thin side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseDubs Posted December 1, 2023 Author Share Posted December 1, 2023 (edited) @MN Mom sounds exactly how it progressed with my fish. Unfortunately I don't have anything else to suggest but I wish you luck. Sadly mine continued to get worse after transferring him to quarantine with Epsom salt as Colu suggested. He only lasted about 1.5 days after I made this forum topic, eventually just laying on his side at the bottom of the tank. I didn't even get a chance to add the Kanaplex. RIP little guy. Edited December 1, 2023 by JesseDubs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Mom Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 I am sorry for your loss Jessica. I don’t think ours is going to make it either. It’s getting weaker and weaker no matter what we try. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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