Daydre Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 (edited) I am an intensely indecisive person so I decided to get some opinions from people on the forum. I want to start a small fish pond and I'm debating whether I should make a muck bucket tub or do something bigger. My plan for the latter is as such: on my parents' property is this pile of paving stones and I'm thinking I might be able to stack them up into the rough shape of a pond and slap a pond liner inside. We have a terrace out there so I'm not so concerned about it sinking into the ground, though I am worried about it falling apart since I don't have plans to mortar it. (I don't plan to mortar it because I should in theory be able to break it down in case I move out and my parents don't want to care for it anymore). Parents also don't want me digging or doing anything too too big since it's their property, their rules. I'm leaning towards the paving stone pond but I'm concerned about whether I'd need to move the fish during the winter since it'd be aboveground. The muck bucket would be more portable but I've heard they kinda break down after a year or so in the sun? I could also just net the fish manually and bring them all in, so there's that. Though also I'm planning to stock medaka rice fish so this whole point is moot if I can just overwinter them in the pond- as far as I'm aware I'm around the same latitude as where they're native so climate should be similar-ish. .... I should stop before I talk myself further into a circle, though that should hopefully prove how indecisive I am lmao Edited February 27, 2023 by Daydre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schuyler Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 You could split the difference and do a stock tub. It can be temporary like the muk tub but it's bigger and more durable. It sounds like you may already have watched these but just in case ACO has a few videos about tubs https://forum.aquariumcoop.com/topic/31207-breeding-in-summer-tubs/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daydre Posted February 27, 2023 Author Share Posted February 27, 2023 Ye I've watched these videos before. I've thought about a stock pond, I think when I was planning for a purely indoor pond my parents were against it but I'm wondering if I phrase it like I'm using one as a pond liner for the rock pond then they'd say yes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy's Fish Den Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 If you do the paving stone with liner thing, you will have to secure the pavers together, because the pressure of the water in the liner will push outwards and collapse the pavers. What you could do, it take either the muck bucket or a Rubbermaid container, set it where you want it and build the paver stones up around the sides. It will dress it up a little so it looks better, but will also help some with temperature regulation, possibly not having as severe temp swings. If you even take the pavers and make it wide enough at some places around, it would give some areas that you can set some plants on pot or anything to decorate the area a little. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mynameisnobody Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 @Daydre eliminate as many points of failure as possible. I would save up some money and get yourself a small stock tank. You’d be surprised how much easier the outdoor pond is with walls. You’ll get much more satisfaction and be able to enjoy it rather than constantly maintain it. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daydre Posted February 28, 2023 Author Share Posted February 28, 2023 On 2/28/2023 at 6:51 AM, Andy's Fish Den said: If you do the paving stone with liner thing, you will have to secure the pavers together, because the pressure of the water in the liner will push outwards and collapse the pavers. What you could do, it take either the muck bucket or a Rubbermaid container, set it where you want it and build the paver stones up around the sides. It will dress it up a little so it looks better, but will also help some with temperature regulation, possibly not having as severe temp swings. If you even take the pavers and make it wide enough at some places around, it would give some areas that you can set some plants on pot or anything to decorate the area a little. On 2/28/2023 at 12:38 PM, mynameisnobody said: @Daydre eliminate as many points of failure as possible. I would save up some money and get yourself a small stock tank. You’d be surprised how much easier the outdoor pond is with walls. You’ll get much more satisfaction and be able to enjoy it rather than constantly maintain it. Good luck. Yeah I was concerned about that kind of stability and I talked it over with my parents- so long as I don't intend to bring the stock tank inside for the winter they're fine with it. Mostly the portability concerns are for taking it with me whenever I move out, and I think I could pack up something like this- which I'm planning to get next time I go to Tractor Supply. I'm definitely gonna stack the paving stones around it like you guys suggested, I dunno how much they'll help with temperature regulation but they ought to make the tub look more like a fixture than, well, a tub standing all on its lonesome. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mynameisnobody Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 @Daydre I have 2 of those 110’s, they’re perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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