Lester Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Hi All I purchased 6 white clouds in early December. I put them in quarantine tank and treated with med trio, but I did each med 1 at a time with breaks in between. They have been doing just OK. I have lost 1 a week for three weeks. I have moved them back to quarantine and noticed white spot behind gills of one male. Also noticed gills are red. I noticed gills would get red and the spine would start to bend before the previous three died. I am new to hobby and just learning. My tanks are not seasoned but are cycled. I test water regularly and change water when I think it needs it. I am an over feeder but I'm working on that. Last water check was: Ph 7.2 Kh 80 Gh 300 No nitrites or ammonia Nitrates are 40 to 50 My well water is hard lots of calcium. Comes out at ph 6.6 to 6.8. After discovering low ph I set up water barrel and aerate and heat before water changes. After 24 hours ph runs 7.8 to 8.0 I added some bags of fluval stratum to help lower ph. It now sits between 7.0 to 7.4. I know this is a lot of info. I'm open to any constructive feedback you've got. I'm enjoying this project and know success comes with failure. The WC were purchased with the idea that I am new and have some learning to do. I hoped to put them in a wine barrel pond this summer. If they make it. I have 2 wine barrel ponds, 2 20 gallons tanks 1 grow out and 1 quarantine. I also have 45 tall. Thanks in advance Lester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 How long after noticing symptoms do your fish die Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lester Posted January 26, 2022 Author Share Posted January 26, 2022 Maybe 4 to 5 days. The one with in the picture looks like it is struggling with equilibrium. Not sure if that's the right word. I'm guessing swim bladder problems too. I have them in the med trio now. Other fish seem to be OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 It could be bacterial Gill disease or Gill flukes I would do a course of kanaplex in food for 7 days and paracleanse to treat the water column to cover all bases 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lester Posted January 26, 2022 Author Share Posted January 26, 2022 Thank you I will give this a try. Will this spread to other fish? I have 12 otos 1 hill stream loach and a Siamese Algae Eater in this quarantine tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 (edited) If they have been in the same tank I would treat them all just be aware Otto's and hillstream loach are more sensitive to medications Edited January 27, 2022 by Colu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lester Posted February 8, 2022 Author Share Posted February 8, 2022 @Colu hi thanks for your help. Update white cloud is doing well. White fungus went away and swimming normal. I know it's just a white cloud but I'm new and I got them to learn from. I plan to treat again in 3 weeks just in case parasites hatch and return. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXInkedPhoenixX Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 @Lester aww, there is no such thing here as "just a", all our fish are important to us. 🙂 Glad it's gotten better! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colu Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 Good to hear he's getting better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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