laritheloud Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 So I have two honey gouramis, both of which I thought were female. Now I'm no longer sure. OR, at least, I'm absolutely sure the younger golden-type gourami is a female, but I'm no longer certain about my older wild-type. Does anyone know if two female gouramis will do the aggression/courtship/dominance dance beside one another, or is this only a phenomenon between two males or a courting pair? Because they did that just now, and I saw the aqua-tinted strip on the wild-type female's (?) lower fin darken. Is my wild type actually a male, not showing breeding colors because my female is too young??? Or are they still two females, lol?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 On 6/12/2021 at 5:02 PM, laritheloud said: So I have two honey gouramis, both of which I thought were female. Now I'm no longer sure. OR, at least, I'm absolutely sure the younger golden-type gourami is a female, but I'm no longer certain about my older wild-type. Does anyone know if two female gouramis will do the aggression/courtship/dominance dance beside one another, or is this only a phenomenon between two males or a courting pair? Because they did that just now, and I saw the aqua-tinted strip on the wild-type female's (?) lower fin darken. Is my wild type actually a male, not showing breeding colors because my female is too young??? Or are they still two females, lol?! Can you upload any videos or photos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laritheloud Posted June 12, 2021 Author Share Posted June 12, 2021 On 6/12/2021 at 5:15 PM, Fish Folk said: Can you upload any videos or photos? i'll try. i only saw them do it once, but i can take photos! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laritheloud Posted June 12, 2021 Author Share Posted June 12, 2021 This is them @Fish Folk. Golden female is the younger one, older wild type female is the one with the stripe. The striped disappears sometimes. The top fin has lemon yellow and an orange rim. The bottom fin has an orange rim that’s usually a little bluish but turned black during the dance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 We had several we thought were doing a spawning embrace ... but I think it may have been a dominance display: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 On 6/12/2021 at 5:20 PM, laritheloud said: This is them @Fish Folk. Golden female is the younger one, older wild type female is the one with the stripe. The striped disappears sometimes. The top fin has lemon yellow and an orange rim. The bottom fin has an orange rim that’s usually a little bluish but turned black during the dance. Can you get a better shot of the all-golden one? The one with a stripe looks like a female.... but I’m not a Gourami pro... 😅 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laritheloud Posted June 12, 2021 Author Share Posted June 12, 2021 On 6/12/2021 at 5:15 PM, Fish Folk said: Can you upload any videos or photos? On 6/12/2021 at 5:23 PM, Fish Folk said: Can you get a better shot of the all-golden one? The one with a stripe looks like a female.... but I’m not a Gourami pro... 😅 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 My guess is two females... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laritheloud Posted June 12, 2021 Author Share Posted June 12, 2021 On 6/12/2021 at 5:36 PM, Fish Folk said: My guess is two females... that's exactly what I assumed, but the black bottom fin during the aggression/dominance dance threw me off! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laritheloud Posted June 12, 2021 Author Share Posted June 12, 2021 On 6/12/2021 at 5:22 PM, Fish Folk said: We had several we thought were doing a spawning embrace ... but I think it may have been a dominance display: It actually did not look like this! Let me get something that does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 On 6/12/2021 at 5:37 PM, laritheloud said: that's exactly what I assumed, but the black bottom fin during the aggression/dominance dance threw me off! I’d love to be wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laritheloud Posted June 12, 2021 Author Share Posted June 12, 2021 (edited) On 6/12/2021 at 5:50 PM, Fish Folk said: I’d love to be wrong! I linked to the time stamp of what it looked like. Plus dark black bottom fin. EDIT: I guess I just have to wait and see if they both continue to color up. I'm all kinds of confused. I went to the store today and picked up a 55 gallon for my next tank, took a look at the honeys they had and it was impossible to sex them in the tank. I wasn't sure of ANY of their sexes, and I was looking out for top fin color/etc. Edited June 12, 2021 by laritheloud 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 On 6/12/2021 at 5:51 PM, laritheloud said: I linked to the time stamp of what it looked like. Plus dark black bottom fin. So... (sorry, I’m confused)... is this your pair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laritheloud Posted June 12, 2021 Author Share Posted June 12, 2021 On 6/12/2021 at 5:50 PM, Fish Folk said: I’d love to be wrong! On 6/12/2021 at 5:54 PM, Fish Folk said: So... (sorry, I’m confused)... is this your pair? Oh, no, it's not. I just found a video that looked like what they were doing. Sorry for the confusion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 On 6/12/2021 at 5:55 PM, laritheloud said: Oh, no, it's not. I just found a video that looked like what they were doing. Sorry for the confusion. Ok! Gotcha! These look like males doing dominance sparing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laritheloud Posted June 12, 2021 Author Share Posted June 12, 2021 On 6/12/2021 at 5:56 PM, Fish Folk said: Ok! Gotcha! These look like males doing dominance sparing.... WHY are honey gouramis so confusing?! 🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Folk Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 Best as I can tell, here’s a few pairs sexed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laritheloud Posted June 12, 2021 Author Share Posted June 12, 2021 On 6/12/2021 at 6:32 PM, Fish Folk said: Best as I can tell, here’s a few pairs sexed... I've been asking around and it sounds like female honey gouramis *NEVER* turn black on the anal fin.... Whereas my gourami was black black black, only on the anal fin! But black. And I didn't manage to take a picture. Sigh.... The colors of my 'female' wild type's dorsal fin look like they might be male. The orange edge to it was throwing me off, though, despite the bright lemon yellow in the distinctive male pattern. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggie Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 Wow, they were really going at it in that video! I couldn't help but notice the cute cory cat with the heart-shaped spot on his tail just moseying on by minding his own business. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laritheloud Posted June 12, 2021 Author Share Posted June 12, 2021 On 6/12/2021 at 6:35 PM, Maggie said: Wow, they were really going at it in that video! I couldn't help but notice the cute cory cat with the heart-shaped spot on his tail just moseying on by minding his own business. As cories do, cute little derpy guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laritheloud Posted June 14, 2021 Author Share Posted June 14, 2021 https://streamable.com/303mva I missed capturing them touching their feelers by a fraction of a second!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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